Michael Hartle wrote:
> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
>
>> Michael Hartle wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> while looking for previous thoughts on combining Cocoon2 with WebDAV, I
>>> luckily stumbled about this post from some time ago. I want to combine
>>> Documentum, Cocoon2 and OpenOffice as a flexible
>>> CMS/collaboration/portal solution due to some promising results
>>> regarding OpenOffice and WebDAV. BTW, once you know you have to activate
>>> the OpenOffice load/save dialogs somewhere in the Options (thanks to
>>> Jörg Heilig from Sun), loading/saving over WebDAV really works
>>> beautifully there.
>>>
>>> <sigh>While MS developed filesystem namespaces to allow stuff like
>>> virtual harddrives and the like for Win32, they ruined this wonderful
>>> idea later on, for example by providing and using standard File
>>> Open/Save dialogs that cannot use anything virtual properly...</sigh>
>>>
>>> I am looking for a way to perfectly (or better elegantly ?) integrate
>>> WebDAV into Cocoon2, being able to provide virtual documents for editing
>>> and retrieve the changes made to those virtual documents; as
>>> OpenOffice/StarOffice6.0 saves zip archives containing XML files, this
>>> practically screams for using Cocoon2 ;)
>>>
>>
>> Ok, let me jump into this since I already spent lots of brain cycles on
>> this.
>>
> Sounds good ;)
>
>> Imagine you have something like a webdav enabled editor: you access the
>> the page, you edit it and you PUT it back on that URI.
>>
>> Now what? XSLT is *NOT* (in general) reversible. Not even talking about
>> aggregation, namespace reaction, dynamic XML expansion and so on. There
>> is algorithmically no way that you can achive that.
>>
> I had some thoughts about this topic, too, and basically agree to your
> statement. I also came to the opinion that integrating WebDAV the way
> you just described does not make much sense, as resulting, mostly
> dynamic and intermixed content does not equal editable content.
> Nevertheless, let me give an example why Cocoon and WebDAV would team up
> nicely:
>
> The file format of OpenOffice (http://www.openoffice.org) is a zip
> archive containing several XML files defining the content of an
> OpenOffice "Word" or "Excel" file. OpenOffice has WebDAV support (when
> activated via a checkbox in the options), so it can load and save on the
> web. Using a (yet to be written) CInclude2ZIPSerializer makes dynamic
> Cocoon content available in all OpenOffice components, reaching from
> text documents to spreadsheets to presentations. Moreover, the user can
> comfortably modify the content and save it back, returning it to the
> originating WebDAV server... if this was Cocoon, and the content would
> reach Cocoon in a WebDAV-compliant manner, this would enable editing
> solutions that beat highly expensive solutions like Arbortext Epic or
> SoftQuads XMetal hands down.
>
> This leads to the result that it is all about "complete atomic content
> units" such as a complete news report, a complete press release or a
> complete financial calculation must be edited instead, using Cocoon to
> retrieve, pack, deliver, receive, unpack and store these contents.
Damn, you "stole" some of my next RT about editing :)
No, just kidding, I love to find the same reasoning in other people, it
shows I'm not crazy (or at least, there's another one I can talk to :)
What is the status of WebDAV support in OpenOffice?
--
Stefano Mazzocchi One must still have chaos in oneself to be
able to give birth to a dancing star.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Friedrich Nietzsche
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