Stefano, >>I am primarily proposing that we decouple the Cocoon concepts from the >>servlet API. We make the usable outside a servlet context. We do >>provide a number of ways of wrapping Cocoon as a servlet, but generalize >>the real APIs >> > >Interesting enough, Paul, this is already here :) > >The abstraction over the Servlet API was designed *explicitly* to allow >CLI *and* Mailet interface for Cocoon. Take a look at the CocoonServlet >code to know what I mean. > So CocoonServlet would be inspiration for the Phoenix block.
>It just hasn't been implemented, but Cocoon already is completely >decoupled from the Servlet API (and making a Cocoon block is entirely >possible... even if the behavioral interface will be very complex since >it has to expose the Cocoon Environment Object model) > :-) >if you want to implement what you said, be our guest :) we don't require >*any* change whatsoever (at least, that I know of) > Well I can do it. However I suspect there are committers here who are Phoenix experts and Cocoon savvy. If none of them step forward (cough Gerhard cough) then I'll do it. You'll have to add me as a committer and I'll promise to tread ultra carefully in your CVS. There are some other things that need to be ticked off. Most significant of which is separation of interface and impl. This is not just a package issue it is a jar issue. JAMES (our hypothetical case) would want to compile against your interfaces, without needing the whole impl in their CVS. In some months time Peter Donald (fingers crossed) will be able to separate the classloaders for SAR apps and still allow them to share services. We can express this simply by viewing the classloader tree as : (as before) | Cocoon Engine WebServer JAMES Incl all impl jars | | | ------------------------------------------------ | Phoenix + Cocoon interfaces jar | JVM1 Actually it would probably be something like (but harder to understand and code*) (as before) | Cocoon Engine, interfaces WebServer JAMES + Cocoon interfaces jar and impl jars | | | ------------------------------------------------ | Phoenix | JVM1 So, in summary, I'll do the code if nobody else steps up, and check my facts re separation. Regards, - Paul H * unless using AltRMI. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]