Stefano et al, I'm reading this thread with interest. If I may add a view as someone who is most interested in Phoenix and the apps hosted on it.
Consider JAMES (the mail server) what if it wanted to render HTML emails/news postings with XSP/XSL. There are ways that it could work currently taking output from a dedicated web server and "paste" into outgoing emails. I see a typical Cocoon deployments as follows: static pages Cocoon Instance as other servlets WebApp incl all jars | | ------------------ | Site1/App1 Site2/App2 | | ------------------------------------- | WebServer | JVM1 What if this were the case: static pages Cocoon Servlet as other servlets small WebApp | | ------------------ | Site1/App1 Site2/App2 | | ------------------------------------- | Cocoon Engine WebServer JAMES Incl all jars | | | ------------------------------------------------ | Phoenix | JVM1 Or This: static pages Cocoon Servlet as other servlets small WebApp | | ------------------ | Site1/App1 Site2/App2 | | ------------------------------------- | Cocoon Engine WebServer JAMES Incl all jars | | | | -------------------------------- | | | Phoenix | | JVM1 JVM2 What am I proposing? Well firstly I think that it should remain posible to run Cocoon in a Web-App, entriely contained and dropped as a war file into Resin, Tomcat, Orion etc. My thinking is that that should be *one* deployment possibility. I am primarily proposing that we decouple the Cocoon concepts from the servlet API. We make the usable outside a servlet context. We do provide a number of ways of wrapping Cocoon as a servlet, but generalize the real APIs I see the separation of Cocoon into three/four core parts: 1) Cocoon Engine This would inherit 95% of the functionality of the current Cocoon. It would be "beanlike" though - able to be instantiated from a number of contexts (see 3,4 below) 2) Servlet wrappers. Again inherited from the current Cocoon. A few of these with a couple of variations: 2.1) A heavyweight servlet that adapts the Cocoon engine and is equivaent to the current deployment style 2.1) A lightweight servlet that delagates via RMI or JNDI (you folks heard of AltRMI yet) to the engine elsewhere 2.2) A lightweight servlet that delagates internally through the VM to the engine (this breaks the "Servlet spec") as the context would be passed up IoC style and most usable for situations where the webserver and Cocoon are sitting on Phoenix. 3) A Phoenix wrapper for Cocoon engine. Failry small in it's own right, but would expose pertinent interfaces internally to other phoenix blocks (like JAMES). 4) A mainable launch mechanism for the Cocoon Engine. This needed? We already have a phoenix compatible webserver called Jo! Maybe sometime this year a few small tweaks are made to Catalina so we can embed it in Phoenix. Thoughts? Regards, - Paul H --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]