<skip why="absolutely agree" copycat="yup" /> :)

> > Also Cocoon's site doesn't even mention that JBuilder 5+ has
> > built-in support for Cocoon. Why not? JBuilder is still the
> > top selling Java IDE.
>
> JBuilder supports Cocoon 1.8 which is now no more supported by Cocoon dev.
I
> think that Cocoon needs a News or What's new page where all similar staff
> could be placed. I've already suggested to add it and place Stefano's
letter
> to community there.

True. Don't you think that just associating the words JBuilder and Cocoon
gives a lot of recognition to the Cocoon community.
When I saw Cocoon in JBuilder, I didn't try to build a cocoon project with
it, instead I went straight to the Cocoon site and started to read about the
latest (2.x) stuff.

> Konstantin
>
> P.S. Just now going to try your forms sample. But I've already impressed
by
> the feedback ;)

Yeah. Everyone has shown mercy and acceptance to a project rookie.


Ivelin

>
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ivelin
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Benjamin Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:39 PM
> > Subject: Live Site
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Well, an -almost- live site:
> > >
> > > http://dir.salon.com/
> > >
> > > We began working with cocoon, internally last year and experimented
> > > with
> > it
> > > quite a bit.
> > >
> > > Recently, we chose to re-engineer our Directory, which is a
> > > compilation of links to all of the articles we have
> > published over the
> > > last six years.
> > This
> > > encompasses about 16,000 articles.   We realized we'd also
> > benefit by
> > > re-publishing all of our old content in XML, as well.
> > >
> > > There are many reasons we opted to deploy Cocoon, and I
> > hope to find
> > > the
> > time
> > > to write them all up sometime soon, along with a basic
> > overview of how
> > > we deployed it, what kinds of code we had to/didn't have to
> > write to
> > > do it, etc., in the hopes that it will assist others.
> > >
> > > We are still tuning and evolving the new Directory, and have only
> > > directed
> > a
> > > small amount of our public traffic to it.  Over the coming weeks, we
> > expect
> > > to make it fully live.   Our biggest challenge has not been
> > in deploying
> > > Cocoon, but in re-publishing our old content, which is stored as
> > completely
> > > non-validated (read: sloppy) HTML fragments in an Oracle
> > database.   Most
> > > likely we will have to re-publish a few more times to get
> > things fully
> > > cleaned up.
> > >
> > > At some point in the future, we may contemplate switching
> > our entire
> > > site over to Cocoon if the directory service proves stable and
> > > efficient under it.  In addition, we'll begin to make more use of
> > > Cocoon's features shortly; we've really only scratched the
> > surface at
> > > this point.
> > >
> > > In the meantime, a big thanks goes out to all of the Cocoon
> > users and
> > > developers who have made all of this possible.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Benjamin Grant
> > > VP, Technology
> > > Salon
> > >
> > >
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