Ovidiu Predescu wrote: >On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:26:21 +0200, Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>giacomo wrote: >> >>>You can have a look at it using http://fw.otego.com/demoshop/ >>> >>If we enter the 'pet shop' marketing arena, we might find ourselves >>having to fight J2EE from one side and .NET from the other. >> >>*this* is exactly the marketing and technical pressure that I don't >>think we can affort to stand at this very moment. >> > >Yes, I agree with you. We are not yet ready to compete with all the >other technologies. Besides code, we need some a good practices >document. > agreed
>But for this to happen we need to collect all the current >methodologies for doing Web app development. People get really > disagree, we only need to tell them 1 or 2 RightWays (tm) to do it. > >confused after they read the documentation available, but don't know >how to start developing their own application. So a collection of all >the methodologies available is a must. I'm afraid however there are >just too many ways of doing things, which might hurt us in the end. > partially agree. Show them a path and let them find their own shortcuts and scenic routes. You only need to demonstrate the use. > >Agree. We shouldn't position ourselves as yet another way of doing >applications, but instead we should leverage and integrate all the >other Java and J2EE technologies. I don't think we can talk about .Net >integration yet, as there are just too many things going on in that >area. > partially agree. I mean JSP is a J2EE technology. Would one not wish to use an alernative in a "best practices" example? (like one that sucked less) > >>In short, instead of a competitive tagline 'use Cocoon instead of J2EE >>or .NET' (which would eventually emerge out of a Cocoon Pet Shop demo), >>we should do something different 'no matter what you what to do with >>your web, Cocoon will help you doing it better'. [please, excuse the >>shitty marketing tone, but we are talking about vapor anyway] >> > >I strongly believe this is the right message we should send. > Thats nice but you need examples of "how" > >Regards, > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]