Nicola,
you wrote:
> How can you define transitions without logic?
> Transitions are based on rules.
> Rules come from algorithms that operate on the model.
I agree with you on principle, but, as of now, this wonderful rules are
scattered amongst pages, making hard changing the flow. IMHO just
centralizing that would be a giant step forward.
Moreover, you wrote:
> And X is for displaying graphics, not running apps.
>
> But Cocoon is not as an X server, it does create applications.
I think the example you gave is not well chosen: the web constraints
developers to execute apps one page at a time, to deal with a lot of
presentation that has nothing to do with the app, and to rely on tricks to
make an application out of a bunch of pages.
Conversely, X, being a mere abstraction layer, doesn't impose constraints on
apps architecture.
Best regards,
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Luca Morandini
GIS Consultant
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 8:26 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [RT] SpitScript - B-Logic that doesn't suck ( Re: [RT]
> Flowmaps)
>
>
>
> Luca Morandini wrote:
> > Nicola,
> >
> > for all our abstractions and wondereful paper machines, the
> naked truth is
> > that the web is geared toward presenting documents, not implementing
> > applications.
>
> And X is for displaying graphics, not running apps.
>
> But Cocoon is not as an X server, it does create applications.
>
> > The page structure of HTML has nothing to do with Business Object or
> > Business Rules or other abstractions... but we should deal with it.
> >
> > Therefore, let's just try to centralize transitions amongst
> pages, like the
> > sitemap has done with URI matching and dispatching. Just
> implementing this
> > feature will be a giant step forward.
>
> How can you define transitions without logic?
> Transitions are based on rules.
> Rules come from algorithms that operate on the model.
> Thus, you need
>
> > BTW, I'd like a declarative implementation, rather than using a script
> > language.
>
> If flowmaps are page transitions it could be.
>
> But it's intriguing to think that the javascript flowmaps can be an easy
> way to make webapps... hmmm...
>
> --
> Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - verba volant, scripta manent -
> (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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