On 28 Nov 2002, David Crossley wrote: > Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > Things to be decided: > > > > 1) the PMC chair. so far I'm the only person who volunteered. I'd be > > happy to accept that job. (hey, that would turn me into a vice-president > > of the foundation, wow :-) > > +1 from me for Stefano to be chair, because he is deserving > and it is appropriate. > > > - o - > > > > 2) the list of PMC members. > > > > My intention is to have a large PMC. Every active cocoon committer will > > have the chance to be in that PMC without requiring an election. > > The last time i heard, the intention was to start the > Cocoon PMC with *all* Cocoon committers. Why the sudden > change to "active committers" only? > > If we follow that route, then Stefano, you would not be on the > PMC, because by the definition of CVS xml-cocoon/xdocs/who.xml > and the history at > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-cvs&r=4&s=stefano&q=b > you actually belong in the "Inactive Committers" section > and are close to being "Emeritus". You are not the only > one in that situation.
How would you define 'active committer'? By CVS commit rates? By RTs? By mail posts/replies? ATM I don't fall in none of these categories but still like to be in the PMC. > So, we need to define very carefully what constitutes a PMC > member and how/when PMC members are considered to be retired. > We must get this whole PMC setup correct from the beginning. I have the impression you'd like to exclude volunteers if they don't have a measurable weight (which ever this might be)? Why so, or did I misunderstud your concerns by 'We must get this whole PMC setup correct from the beginning'? > > At the same time, I'd ask you people to consider partecipation at the > > PMC as a serious thing and step out *NOW* if you don't feel like you > > should be there. > > > > A PMC is the Project Management Commitee. As for ASF bylaws, the PMC is > > legally responsible of the oversight of the project and reports directly > > to the ASF board via its chair. > > > > The PMC is responsible for *all* the codebases that it will host. Note > > that if the Cocoon PMC will host more codebases, *all* committers from > > all hosted codebases will be treated equal, this (and other ASF-wide > > communities) will hopefully avoid the jakarta-effect of internal > > fragmentation. > > > > This is the list of the current active committers > > > > Nicola Ken Barozzi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Marcus Crafter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > David Crossley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Torsten Curdt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Bertrand Delacrétaz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Vadim Gritsenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Christian Haul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Ivelin Ivanov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Stefano Mazzocchi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Stephan Michels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > John Morrison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Steven Noels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Andrew Oliver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Giacomo Pati ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Konstantin Piroumian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Ovidiu Predescu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Jeremy Quinn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Gianugo Rabellino ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Peter Royal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Diana Shannon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Davanum Srinivas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Sylvain Wallez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Carsten Ziegeler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > > If you think you should be there but you are not listed, please speak up > > now. > > > > If you don't want to sit in the PMC, please speak up now. > > > > [matthew has been proposed and will be added to the list if accepted] > > > > - o - > > > > 3) the scope of the Cocoon PMC > > > > well, this is not easy, I'll try to come up with something soon and a > > vision to share. > > Just get started and we will all help to develop the vision. > We should start with building a simple list of dot-points. > Shall we do it on the Cocoon Wiki or on cocoon-dev ? I'd prefer cocoon-dev. Giacomo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]