On 10/2/03 17:37, "Vadim Gritsenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> How about webservices (ws?) block? We have axis stuff in the scratchpad
> which also could be thrown into it.

Well, I don't know... But, I _do_not_like_ web services... :-)

I need, though, an HttpProxyGenerator: in my application, I basically have a
Cocoon instance which (behind some tons of firewalls), deals with databases
and search engines... All this data is then "presented" in XML (mainly RSS
and some proprietary doctypes) to a "front-end" rendering-only cocoon
instance, caching the backend when needed, and presenting the requested
content to the client (we are going to have several of those)...

Basically:

  +--------+  JDBC
  | Oracle | ------+
  +--------+       |     +------------------+
                   +---> | "Backend" Cocoon |
  +--------+       |     +------------------+
  | Lucene | ------+              |
  +--------+  FILES               | XML over HTTP (RSS + Proprietary)
                                  |
             +--------------------+--------------------+
             |                    |                    |
             V                    V                    V
   +------------------+ +------------------+ +------------------+
   | Rendering Cocoon | | Rendering Cocoon | | Rendering Cocoon |
   +------------------+ +------------------+ +------------------+
             |                    |                    |
             | HTML               | WAP                | Feed (proprietary)
             |                    |                    |
             V                    V                    V
        +--------+           +--------+           +--------+
        | Client |           | Client |           | Client |
        +--------+           +--------+           +--------+

In other words, the "Backend" instance deals with the databases and our
search indexes, caching the data (for example an article) locally. When one
of the front-ends requires an article, I don't have to think about
replicating the same database-magic in the front-end, I simply say that my
article resides on the backend, and I use the HTTP Proxy to get it.

So, literally, for me an article is that XML document found at

http://backend/article?id=xyz

This is what concerns _me_. The graphics team have their all set of stuff in
the front-end that they can deal with (and which I don't really care about).
They only know that the article is at that given URL...

But that's far from writing anything even _close_ to some WSDL markup! :-)
IMO, the problem of accessing XML remotely over an HTTP connection is quite
different from doing the whole "web-services" thing... They should be two
separate blocks, IMVVVVHO...

    Pier


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