Pier Fumagalli wrote, On 10/02/2003 20.13:
On 10/2/03 18:30, "Vadim Gritsenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


IMHO, web service != WSDL.
IMHO, web service = transport + xml, thus HTTP+XML is a web service.
AFAIU, WSDL is the way to describe (formalize) web service. But it
perfectly works without it.

I use the "Goddard Compliancy Test for Buzzword"...

- If I say "web service", Goddard will again reply "too complicated, we
  don't want to use that J2EE thing"

- If I say "XML over HTTP via a proxy", Goddard will reply: "Ah, ok, why
  didn't you say so in the first place, you muppet?"
I use the "Andy Compliancy Test for Buzzword"...

 - If I say "Inversion o Control", Andy will again reply
   "too complicated, we don't want to use that Avalon thing"

 - If I say "container sets up the object ", Andy will reply:
   "Ah, ok, why didn't you say so in the first place, you winblows?"

;-P

Forgot to mention, Mr Goddard is my boss! :-)
Tup, Andy is the nearest thing I have to a boss... hehehe ;-P

OTOH, may be ProxyGenerator should go into the core... Dunno.

It might make sense because it's basically a file generator but it gets
"files" off somewhere else (It's like the file generator + steroids), but it
relies on two external things: commons-httpclient and commons-logkit (hey'
it's not me! :-) It's httpclient).
Then it makes perfectly sense to put it out of the core.
The core should have the least possible dependencies: JDK, Avalon, Xml-stuff.

That's also why I want to separate the environments too as done with blocks.

Shall I put it now alongside the WebServiceProxyGenerator, then I refactor
all samples, and then once that step is done and we're all happy with it, we
decide to either keep it in there or separate it out as a block, and "get
rid" of the old version???
Rule of the thumb: in a block we have classes that have:
- roughly same jar dependencies
- they are used in exclusion for the same task
- they are used together for a single goal

We also have generic blocks and specific blocks.
"database" is generic.
"batik" is specific.

Eventually we will have a generic database block and specific sublocks, but that's inheritance, and a later thing to do.

(I'm new to the game,
suuuuuureeeee ;-P

 so, it's your call folks)

--
Nicola Ken Barozzi                   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
            - verba volant, scripta manent -
   (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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