On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 05:30:27PM +0100, SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: > I heavily agree. > > Just another idea going into the same direction: > > Would it make sense to organise something like a > "cocoon core application" plus some zip-files, each of them > containing one complete setup for one example. So the user > could do : > > 1.) install cocoon > 2.) drop his favorite example zip into a dedicated > location inside cocoon (e.g. $cocoonroot/testscenarios) > 3.) test it > 4.) delete it if not used anymore > > what would be needed to get this done? > > 1.) basically add a fresh mountpoint to rootsitemap and enshure, that > the subdirectory $cocoonroot/testscenarios) exists. Alternatively > cleanup $cocoonroot/mount and use this for the testscenarios. It's > already there .... > 2.) Each test scenario gets it's own subdir in the test scenario > mountpoint. By this the user could unzip the testapp into the > scenario folder, test it and delete the folder, if not used > anymore. Also this can be aranged without big problems. > > If the testscenarios would be built in their own folder hierarchies, > everything would be a matter of zipping the folder, putting the zipfile > to a download location and youre done. The user grabs the zip, unzips it > and is done... > > would do you think ?
Hi Hussayn Im not sure what you mean here, but this almost sounds a little like cocoon blocks ?? Regards, Michael > > regards, hussayn > > > > Michael Melhem wrote: > >On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 02:06:18PM +0100, Christian Haul wrote: > > > >>On 03.Feb.2003 -- 01:33 PM, Michael Melhem wrote: > >> > >>>Hi Cocooners, > >>> > >>>I know that we probably have had this discussion before, but is there a > >>>reason why we dont have simple "Hello-World" sample web-app along side > >>>the current sample web-app? (or does there already exist an independent > >>>"hello-world" web-app that Im not aware of?) > >>> > >>>I have been trying to encourage some people I know to adopt Cocoon > >>>in their organisations, but it seems to me that many new people are > >>>daunted by the complexity of the sample web-app. It might not seem so > >>>difficult for most of us (who use cocoon everyday) but this is not the > >>>case for most new users. > >> > >>Michael, I'm not quite sure if I understand this "simple webapp" > >>proposal correctly. We do have a "clean-webapp" target which AFAIR > >>builds a webapp without samples or documentation. > > > > > >Hi Christian, I was actually thinking that we could provide a new > >build target that would build a hello-world.war and would contain > >only one or two simple samples. > > > >The object of this hello-world.war would be demonstrate the basic > >features/ideas behind Cocoon without getting bogged down on details. > >Just something simple with extra documentation so that newbies can get > >ther handes dirty real quick. > > > >So instead of having X number of generators|transformers|serializers > >being declared in the components section, we would have one or two > >of each which would make things much easier to follow. We would also > >have only one or two pipelines using say a basic file generator > >to transform an xml file to HTML etc. I think at a minimum the webapp > >would aslo need to show basic use of actions views.. > > > >With the current complexity of the webapp Im afraid that perhaps a lot > >of new users might not be able to see the "forrest for the trees". > > > >Does anyone else see value in this? > > > > > >>The other issue is the current samples we ship. A lot lives in a > >>single sitemap file which is not really encouraging to try to > >>understand what happens in there. Perhaps, we could all adopt some > >>samples and split this monster into several sub sitemaps that contain > >>just the parts for this particular sample. Have a look at the current > >>database block samples to see what I mean. > > > > > >Yes I agree with you here, the current webapp could itself be > >simplified. > > > >Regards, > >Michael > > > > > >> Chris. > >>-- > >>C h r i s t i a n H a u l > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> fingerprint: 99B0 1D9D 7919 644A 4837 7D73 FEF9 6856 335A 9E08 > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > Dr. Hussayn Dabbous > SAXESS Software Design GmbH > Neuenh?fer Allee 125 > 50935 K?ln > Telefon: +49-221-56011-0 > Fax: +49-221-56011-20 > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
