On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Jeff Turner wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 03:11:44PM +1100, David Crossley wrote:
> > Diana Shannon wrote:
> >
> > Will people be able to do both ways - traditional patch/create
> > xdocs in cvs, or via the Wiki?
>
> With Chaperon integration, the next version of Forrest should be able to
> handle cwiki and xdoc formats equally well.

I think too ;-)

> > Online editing might be okay for people in well-connected countries.
> > However, for the rest of us, working online via dial-up modem through a
> > clumsy web interface is not productive.
>
> Well, with the wiki, you click 'edit', make your change, click 'save',
> and that's it.
>
> With CVS, you have to:
>
>  - Download a CVS client
>  - Install it, Learn how to use it, work out the pserver string, bang
>    your head against CVS_RSH, eventually get it right.
>  - For many users, discover for the first time that a firewall blocks
>    port 2401, and you've wasted your time.
>  - Wait n hours for 34M of Cocoon to download
>  - find the xdoc you want to edit, build docs, wait, rinse, repeat
>  - Search the web for "how to create a patch". Finally figure out 'cvs
>    diff -u'.
>  - Create a bugzilla account, create a doc enhancement request.
>
> And that's your afternoon, if not your whole day, down the drain.
>
> Moving to Forrest will make the edit turnaround cycle faster, at the
> expense of an extra 10mb download.
>
> So I agree with Diana about moving all docs to the Wiki.  It seems the
> best long-term solution, avoiding all the problems that a dual wiki/xdoc
> system would cause.

Just a short story of the project, in which I currently working on.

I working in a E-Learning project(The biggest in germany), in which 15
different universities are involved. Our system consist of a Cocoon and
Slide core. We offer two different options to write their content: XML
and Tex. The Tex content will be converted in a internally pipeline into
the XML format. The author can modify their content over WebDAV. The most
used Editor is XMLSpy, which can direct operate with WebDAV. The option,
to write content in a WebForm, is the option, which I missing.

It's sometimes a plague, how stupid our authors are. The funniest thing
was removing the root path *doh*.
I started to believe that a simple WebForm should achieve our needs, since
I was impressed by the popularity of wiki :-/

Stephan Michels.


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