on 6/8/03 6:03 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Le Samedi, 7 juin 2003, à 09:44 Europe/Zurich, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : > > >>....the code samples made my hair draw up on my head : hardcoded HTML >>in Java code !! > > > Blessed arth thou, who haveth hair on their head ;-)
ahah > It shows that users of such apps (simple CMSes) do not care what's > under the hood. > > >>...Having this kind of application as a Cocoon sample would be a >>killer to demonstrate its power. Furthermore, it may foster the >>development of blocks. > > > Agreed but I would prefer such an app to be focused on / marketed as a > "CMS development framework" rather than a "CMS app sample". > > PHP-based light CMSes a la PHPNuke have the big advantage of being very > easy to install at most provider's sites: copy the .PHP files in the > right places, edit one of them for config, that's it. Java-based apps > cannot compete with PHP for ease of installation today unless you're > running your server. Cocoon blocks will change this. This is actually the ultimate goal of blocks: provide super-easy assembly and deployment of your webapps but without sacrificing architectural elegance for ease of use: cocoon will give both at the same time! > OTOH a Cocoon-based CMS would be much better in terms of XML-based > content and expandability/connectivity through java, Avalon, etc. > > So I think such a demo app should be clearly targeted as developers, > either to help them understand Cocoon or to serve as a basis for their > developments, but not at end-users who usually just want to quickly > setup a simple CMS and don't care about what's inside. > > My 2 <i18n key="favorite-currency"/>. I'd like to see linotype as the seed for a micro-cms/blogger on top of cocoon. I'll start with adding it to the CVS and let's see how things go from there. But again, enough talking, let's do stuff. -- Stefano.