Hi!

> Hi all,
>
> I am currently learning Cocoon2 for use on an intranet server. We would
like
> to deploy a role-based portal for our users to give access to various
> datasources and as a front-end to a set of other webapps. In the learning
> process I have a couple observations. These may be in the process of
> resolution and planned, I don't really know.

There are a lot of things planned and in process. See cocoon-dev mail list
archives.

>
> 1. The tight integration between the cocoon framework, samples and
> documentation makes it difficult to understand the basic requirements for
> applications. I think chello tried to do that but it is now out of date. A
> 60k sitemap.xmap is quite overwelming! I believe cocoon blocks will help
> this drastically but can't the samples, documentation, and portal be moved
> to sub-sitemaps and somewhat separated from the framework directory
> hierarchy now?

This work on samples is in progress. Just look at the /src/webapp/samples/
directory.

Work on the documentation is also in progress: both on the content and
structure (both at Apache Forrest and Cocoon Dev).

>
> It would be fine to leave a large sampling of core generators and
> transformers, etc. in the main sitemap along with a basic "home page" to
> point to the sub-sitemaps. This page could easily be replaced for an
actual
> deployment.

Yes, we are moving in that direction, though a little slow.

>
> 2. In reading the documentation on session contexts (from CVS) and under
the
> section on Context-Tags it lists names which cannot be used (request,
> response, session, context, temp, portal or authentication) because they
are
> built-in. These seem fine except portal which is an application and
> shouldn't be a core context.

Agree. Could you point me to that document?

>
> At this point I am working on understanding the framework and I think it
> will be great for my application. The examples are pretty nice as well but
> figuring out how to strip things down to just what is necessary and not
> having to build the samples and other optional parts on an ongoing basis
> would be very helpful. A "best practices" for laying out an application
> would be great as well. It seems every example I have found uses a very
> different directory layout and agreeing on a base structure would make
> comparing and reviewing various uses much easier.

In progress.

>
>
> Please be patient with me as I get started and please point me on my way!

You're welcome.

--
  Konstantin

>
>
> (now if I can just get the cocoon portal working...)
>
> dave
>
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