But that doesnt' prevent people discussing AquaBrowser in other forums as well, does it?

Joe Atzberger wrote:
I'm fairly confident there is not, just that the new list intends to (self-)
select just licensed users.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Cloutman, David

Interesting. Our catalog consortium just bought Aquabrowser. Is there
some sort of NDA that you know of that would limit the discussion to
private forums? I hadn't heard of such a thing, but then maybe no one
thought to tell me.

David Cloutman <dclout...@co.marin.ca.us>
Electronic Services Librarian
Marin County Free Library

-----Original Message-----
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of
Gabriel Farrell
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] AquaBrowser Libraries Group

While the "Interesting difference..." bit may be read as snarky, I
appreciated Jeffrey's post for pointing out that most discussions about
AquaBrowser can't take place on this list due to its lack of membership

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45:24AM -0400, Edward M. Corrado wrote:
I don't see this as an interesting difference at all. Almost all
[larger] vendor-supplied products in the library world have their
own discussion lists that are limited to people that use/license
their products. We even see this with Open Source products such as
Koha. Although I do not use AquaBrowser, unlike almost all other
library specific-software of this magnitude I understand that
AquaBrowser does not have a user group (formal or informal). There
currently is very few ways (no way?) for users of this product to
converse with each other and share ideas.

There are numerous reasons for wanting to share information on a
closed list that can range from not wanting to spam a larger
community with a "how do activate a widget in product A" to asking
questions/sharing information that for whatever reason you don't
want to or can't share with the whole world (e.g. non-disclosure
agreements, public relations concerns, privacy concerns, not wanting
your name in open archives attached to something, etc.).  In fact,
in some cases you may not even want the vendor on the list the way
some Voyager systems administrators created a list that excluded
Endeavor (and now Ex Libris) and non-systems people at Voyager
sites. This made people feel much more comfortable asking questions
that maybe they would otherwise be embarrassed or reluctant to ask.

I applaud Kathryn for taking the initiative to organize the
AquaBrowser community by creating the AquaBrowser Libraries Group.
From what I understand from people that use the product this is
something that is overdue for the community.

What the library technology world needs is more people like Kathryn
that try to build community to help each other with whatever
software product they are using. Sure, in a perfect world maybe
everything would be completely Open but that is not reality. People
that take initiative should be praised. They should not be met with
snarky comments.


-----Original Message-----
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
<mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>] On Behalf Of
Barnett, Jeffrey
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] AquaBrowser Libraries Group

Good point Ed, but I think by the phrase "Licensed sites only" the
intent of the AquaBrowser discussion _is_ to exclude open source.
Interesting difference...

-----Original Message-----
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
<mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>] On Behalf Of
Ed Summers
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] AquaBrowser Libraries Group

You should also feel free to discuss AquaBrowser on here too ... the
code4lib discussion isn't limited to opensource software.

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On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Kathryn Frederick
<kfred...@skidmore.edu <mailto:kfred...@skidmore.edu>> wrote:
Please excuse cross-posting.

I've set up an AquaBrowser Google Group to share tips and post
questions. If your library uses AquaBrowser, please consider
This group is restricted, email me at kfred...@skidmore.edu
<mailto:kfred...@skidmore.edu> and I'll
send you an invite.

Licensed sites only, please.


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