I am not aware of any recent egregious issues and I don't think code4lib is a 
hotbed of misogynist behavior, certainly not compared to more mainstream tech 
conferences or something notorious like DefCon. Having a policy in place (which 
was my only request in that original email, and which we now have, yay!) is a 
good idea regardless of whether any individual incident in the past meets 
anyone's individual criteria for harassment. It protects conference organizers 
legally, it gives us an agreed upon way to respond if incidents do arise, and 
having such a policy is a proven way to make conferences more welcoming to 
women and gender minorities. 

I am not comfortable discussing my individual experience in public more than I 
already have. I have acted as a lightning rod for these kinds of discussions in 
the past and I am not interested in playing that role again. 

I am not comfortable discussing specific incidents that have been related to me 
in confidence, and I am REALLY not interested in rehashing more public 
incidents, I think that would be a train wreck. As for what has happened that 
we're trying to address: Sometimes people make thougtless jokes. Sometimes 
people say alienating things without meaning to. Sometimes people do things 
they might later wish they hadn't done, because they were drunk, or having a 
good time, or never knew a certain word carried a certain connotation for some 
people. These things are not really news-worthy individually. I would prefer 
instead to put energy into knowing how to respond to problematic behavior in 
the moment, how to discuss questions of privilege and inclusiveness without 
creating hostility, and how to make library technology more inclusive in 
general. 

Bess


On Dec 18, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Michele R Combs <[email protected]> wrote:

> Much better to do it that way than on the list, IMHO.  Then the list can get 
> back to code :)
> 
> It's possible that the ratio of idiots at a code4lib function is comparable 
> to the ratio of idiots anywhere else (e.g., an ALA conference or SAA function 
> or, heck, your basic office party).  In that case, I submit that no special 
> method of attack or treatment is required -- just the same approach used when 
> one encounter jerks in any other area of one's life.
> 
> Michele
> ________________________________________
> From: Code for Libraries [[email protected]] on behalf of Jonathan 
> Rochkind [[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:14 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Question abt the code4libwomen idea
> 
> ...Is this a good idea, or just a disaster trainwreck lying in wait? If
> it's a good idea, we could easily set up a wiki page where people can
> easily anonymously describe incidents (again, what I'm going for is NOT
> calling specific people out, but just giving us an idea of what it is
> that has happened that we're trying to stop from happening, you know?)...

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