That sounds like the right thing to do

On Thu, 11 Mar 2021, 21:37 'P5music' via CodenameOne Discussions, <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Maybe I have an idea, thanks to you Javier!
> I just have to handle the events in JS, and using the callbacks only after
> having detected the right longpress timing.
> I hope it works. As soon as possible I will test.
> Regards
>
>
> Il giorno giovedì 11 marzo 2021 alle 21:16:14 UTC+1 [email protected]
> ha scritto:
>
>> Hi P5,
>>
>> BrowserComponent on Android is nothing more than a native window into a
>> webview.
>>
>> Testing embedded html in any app needs to be done directly on a device,
>> because each device uses a different browser engine to render (ios uses
>> safari, Android uses Chrome).
>>
>> This isn't an issue with CN1, CN1 doesn't own Apple/Google and can't be
>> held responsible for issues there. Although I bet that the real issue is in
>> your js code
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021, 16:56 'P5music' via CodenameOne Discussions, <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> @Steve Hannah
>>> I will try to please you testing as you say, although in the next days
>>> because I am busy trying to resume my Swift project just in case this issue
>>> is not solved.
>>> Please be patient.
>>>
>>> In the meanwhile you can ponder about this:
>>>
>>> You can see that it is very likely that:
>>>
>>> 1-there is a problem with the mousedown/mouseup events when a long press
>>> is performed by the user on the Android device (for CodenameOne apps)
>>> 2-this causes that gesture being not detected, so the events are like
>>> "floating" or "bubbling" so the text is selected even when it is explicitly
>>> forbidden, indeed the text selection interface appears (with handles,
>>> copy/paste commands, and so on)
>>> 3-I am no security expert but this could even exploitable
>>> 4-this breaks the user experience
>>> 5-this lets the user select text where it is unwanted
>>>
>>> I do not understand why you do not directly address what is in the issue
>>> I opened:
>>> CEF BrowserComponent: mouse events handled differently in Android device
>>> than simulator · Issue #3378 · codenameone/CodenameOne · GitHub
>>> <https://github.com/codenameone/CodenameOne/issues/3378>
>>> No web server code is involved, the case was built to Android and tested
>>> on a real device.
>>> The issue is about mouse events so this should be enough for you to try
>>> to fix it because long-press gesture is not handled on the Android devices
>>> as far as I can see.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Il giorno giovedì 11 marzo 2021 alle 16:30:22 UTC+1 Steve Hannah ha
>>> scritto:
>>>
>>>> Did you take my advice from a few posts back?
>>>> 1. Isolate your HTML/Javascript and test in device browsers.
>>>> 2. When that works, test in Codename One webview, loading from a web
>>>> server - without any Java <-> javascript communication.
>>>> 3. When that works proceed to adding the java <-> javascript
>>>> communication piece.
>>>> 4. Use Safari debug tools to debug on iOS device.  Use Chrome desktop
>>>> debugger to to debug on Android device.
>>>>
>>>> Unless you've put in the work on that, I can't help you.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:52 PM 'P5music' via CodenameOne Discussions <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I know you are very busy.
>>>>> :) I still suspect Shai,Shanna, and Lianna are the same person.
>>>>>
>>>>> I couldn't check on StackOverflow for other questions other that mine
>>>>> but I think you provide the assistance with the same
>>>>> one-answer/comment-a-day.
>>>>> If it is so I think you missed the opportunity to create hype and
>>>>> traffic about CN on StackOverflow.
>>>>> You should be happy if someone creates questions and questions,
>>>>> especially programming ones. (I avoid using SO not to expose the many
>>>>> problems CN has)
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said, in my case, you also go off track here.
>>>>>
>>>>> About what you said about me not testing on physical devices, you are
>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> You slowed down my development to 10 months instead of 1 (the Android
>>>>> version took me 2 months, the Swift version about 1).
>>>>>
>>>>> But I appreciate any kind of help you could give.
>>>>> I also created things that you said it were impossible to achieve.
>>>>>
>>>>> When my development has finished I started to test on Android devices
>>>>> and it was me that discovered the nasty issue about the
>>>>> BrowserComponent,
>>>>> because
>>>>>
>>>>> you did not perform the test on the hardware devices.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Il giorno giovedì 11 marzo 2021 alle 04:37:11 UTC+1 Shai Almog ha
>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You only see a small portion of the support I do daily.
>>>>>> I read your answers fast because you specifically have an issue with
>>>>>> getting to the point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're complaining about my reading of your questions when clearly
>>>>>> you still think CEF is on Android (it isn't) CEF only impacts the 
>>>>>> simulator
>>>>>> and nothing else!
>>>>>> I wrote that before. I also warned you about some choices and about
>>>>>> your approach of ignoring device testing which is crucial and I very
>>>>>> specifically warned you about that when you started. So don't put this on
>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm still trying to help but there are limits to what we can do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:33:30 AM UTC+2 P5music wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for answering.
>>>>>>> I have to say that nothing is personal here but I think it is good
>>>>>>> for you and CN that I say something more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As you can see in the most recent comments here
>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/codenameone-discussions/c/gOK2zf9x5Lc
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/codenameone-discussions/c/121OlNeKXh0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you are not paying attention to what it is written in the requests,
>>>>>>> especially when they are subtle, you forget also what you said before.
>>>>>>> Maybe you literally address the requests at the end of the day when
>>>>>>> you are tired.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As you know not many questions here or on StackOverflow are issued
>>>>>>> every day (very few) so
>>>>>>> nobody is harassing you with continuous questions, and nobody is
>>>>>>> overwhelming you with questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is unconceivable that even comments on SO are addressed at the
>>>>>>> end of the day, for the next day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's you who are multiplying the questions here:
>>>>>>> It takes an average three-days of exchanges to get a focused answer
>>>>>>> about the real thread subject, followed by denials, negations, looping 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> so on.
>>>>>>> Sometimes just non-sense is issued to postpone to tomorrow.  I am
>>>>>>> not so naive not to realize that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A reasonable kind of assistance would encompass supporting a thread
>>>>>>> until conclusion,
>>>>>>> not this way (also, very often you forget what has been said in the
>>>>>>> thread the previous days).
>>>>>>> If a developer is harassing you with many new threads in a day, you
>>>>>>> can simply ignore him/her until the next day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [My issue about CEF is very important, if you consider that your CEF
>>>>>>> on Android is not able to handle long-press events,
>>>>>>> but it's not all about mouse events, it does not handle text
>>>>>>> selection correctly too as I said in the same issue:
>>>>>>> think about a new enterprise customer that does not want that the
>>>>>>> user can select text in the BrowserComponent,
>>>>>>> if they create a prototype they see that CEF is not able to do so
>>>>>>> and the text is selectable, such a simple basic issue,
>>>>>>> they check if there is an issue on github and they see that it has
>>>>>>> been opened for months,
>>>>>>> well, they go away immediately.
>>>>>>> Yes, maybe it is important only for them now but you are aware that
>>>>>>> it is technically important nonetheless,
>>>>>>> and fix it, feeling lucky to have the possibility to prevent other
>>>>>>> customers from stumbling into it.]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a free account but after 10 months I cannot be dismissed at
>>>>>>> the final stage of publishing the app.
>>>>>>> This is just common sense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope this does not upset you tonight, but it is important because
>>>>>>> you can improve.
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Il giorno mercoledì 10 marzo 2021 alle 04:35:14 UTC+1 Shai Almog ha
>>>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think you have unreasonable expectations. I spend a lot of time
>>>>>>>> supporting and trying to help regardless of your subscription status.
>>>>>>>> We do resolve a lot of issues for all subscription levels but our
>>>>>>>> general rule of thumb is about blockers and big issues. This is a big 
>>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>> for you but it isn't for anyone else. Most people don't mix HTML and 
>>>>>>>> Java
>>>>>>>> code too much. These have always been the difficult edge cases in every
>>>>>>>> platform that mixes those.
>>>>>>>> Yes CEF does have issues but those issues are limited to the
>>>>>>>> simulator for the most part. On the device the implementation has been 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> same for years and literally no one complained about the problem you 
>>>>>>>> ran
>>>>>>>> into.
>>>>>>>> Since it happens on Android you can debug this using Android
>>>>>>>> Studio. I don;t know if it happens on iOS but I repeatedly made it 
>>>>>>>> clear
>>>>>>>> that you need an iOS device and need to test iteratively. There's a 
>>>>>>>> limit
>>>>>>>> to working with the simulator and when you work heavily on native peers
>>>>>>>> (and HTML is a native peer) you need a device.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:48:34 AM UTC+2 P5music wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Already done debugging on Android in regard to this:
>>>>>>>>> BrowserComponent: mouse events handled differently in Android
>>>>>>>>> device than simulator (google.com)
>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/codenameone-discussions/c/121OlNeKXh0>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mouse events for long press are not working. I filed an issue.
>>>>>>>>> It seems that you released the CEF without even bothering to check
>>>>>>>>> some HTML-Javascript content inside.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now I cannot publish my app because the very first functioning of
>>>>>>>>> a BrowserComponent is not available. And I already wasted a month of 
>>>>>>>>> Apple
>>>>>>>>> developer program, not mentioning being on this project from June 
>>>>>>>>> 2020.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a free account but one could look at it from a different
>>>>>>>>> perspective: you released a new feature without any testing and 
>>>>>>>>> luckily you
>>>>>>>>> have an early tester for free.
>>>>>>>>> But you are not listening to it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I subscribed as CN developer I received an e-mail saying like
>>>>>>>>> "please help us to spread the use of the CodenameOne" or something 
>>>>>>>>> similar.
>>>>>>>>> But how are we supposed to help if you do not fix issues of such
>>>>>>>>> importance, that are already deployed in fact.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Believe me, many times I returned to my Swift project, not
>>>>>>>>> difficult to update it because a few lines of development were 
>>>>>>>>> possible for
>>>>>>>>> me to do in months with this very painful day-to-day before-going-bed
>>>>>>>>> "free" assistance you think is doing good for CN here and on 
>>>>>>>>> StackOverflow,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but Swift/SwiftUI is so awful that I had to continue with the CN
>>>>>>>>> project,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that I like, do not misunderstand me, it has many avantages I want
>>>>>>>>> in a project,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and I believe in having an easy way to develop for iOS without
>>>>>>>>> surrendering to Apple.
>>>>>>>>> This it the "plus" of CodenameOne, not the cross-platform stuff
>>>>>>>>> for Android or Blackberry or desktop.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do you see it?
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>
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