At 01:34 28/03/2002 -0800, BobsKC wrote: >I am passing this on from lb aka Fireball .. he seems to want to help
I doubt so, from my point of view but i dont know him, added to that, i seriously doubt coder-com has anything to do with that, at least .. its not ircu or X dependent. I just feel like this mailing list is not for passing kiddies messages, i ignore him on purpose, its not to be filled by his messages relayed by opers. thrown like this .. I would say without reflexion .. what will prevent a DDoSer to flood hop number 24 (195.243.61.88) ?? or they would just hit uplink router, thus taking down ALOT MORE than "just" the irc server.... I'm maybe wrong but im not sure this could help *unless* the equivalent of hop 21 is an OC48 and you have IANA reserved blocks until the end. as a last remark, i think that the people running / hosting the undernet servers are, in a good majority ISP network admins since many years .. I dont know how old this fireball is, but i doubt he's really mature, or at least was last year or in the last months .. some of the people that have been attacked had decades of experience in Networking... I think that if that was really helpfull (and easy to do for servers ... this may also be highly network topology dependent or involve too much costs/changes at ISP to be placed) and effective it would have already been done. >Bob > >[1:29] <lb> anyway.. >[1:29] <lb> 21 BN-ag1.BN.net.DTAG.DE (62.154.66.46) 179 ms 180 ms 181 ms >[1:29] <lb> 22 192.168.0.2 (192.168.0.2) 188 ms 191 ms 184 ms >[1:29] <lb> 23 192.168.0.2 (192.168.0.2) 189 ms 185 ms 183 ms >[1:29] <lb> 24 195.243.61.88 (195.243.61.88) 193 ms 187 ms 185 ms >[1:29] <lb> check this out a bit.. :) > > ok >[1:30] <lb> 192.168.0.2 >[1:30] <lb> the microsoft lan default >[1:30] <lb> :) >[1:30] <lb> so the router's ip can't be seen.. >[1:30] <lb> if they do that to undernet servers.. >[1:30] <lb> it would be a lot harder to packet them.. >[1:30] <lb> a WHOLE lot..
