Hi,
I agree with his statement, but I don't
get how someone is able to flood a channel where has been put a ban on
*!*@*...
As far as I remember, you can't change
nicks when banned, aren't able to speak when banned and aren't able to join when
banned. These were all types off possible floods right?
wfr
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From: "Alexander Maassen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:45
PM
Subject: [Coder-Com] *!*@* ban
abusability
> Problem:
> *!*@* masks strongly mess up channels when used in kick/ban
>
> Example:
> - Get level 100 in a channel (so you can ban)
> - Issue a ban on *!*@* at level 20
>
> Result:
> Flood away, coz noone can op himself since he is no longer allowed to be op
> (*!*@* matches all users and equals NOOP that way with the difference that
> every 100+ can do that without needing permission from a 450+)
>
> Solution:
> Finally get rid of *!*@* usage !, its only abused by a lot of users (Greg,
> perhaps you want to start logging the *!*@* usage to get some stats
> yourself) to create massjoinfloods, disrupt the channel activity and in that
> way be able to put load on the servers. *!*@* bans are NOT NEEDED TO BE USED
> by clients, perhaps in kick if they want to clean up the idlers, but then I
> suggest to limit the usage of kicks on *!*@* to 450, perhaps split the
> command apart and make a /msg X kickall <channel> <reason> instead
>
> Another funny issue you haven't thought about is the fact that unban is also
> affected by this issue, imagine having like 20 bans on a channel's banlist
> in X, someone adding a ban on *!*@*, now do the math and make an estimation
> what you need to do to remove this single ban without harming the other bans
> in the list.
>
> *!*@* masks strongly mess up channels when used in kick/ban
>
> Example:
> - Get level 100 in a channel (so you can ban)
> - Issue a ban on *!*@* at level 20
>
> Result:
> Flood away, coz noone can op himself since he is no longer allowed to be op
> (*!*@* matches all users and equals NOOP that way with the difference that
> every 100+ can do that without needing permission from a 450+)
>
> Solution:
> Finally get rid of *!*@* usage !, its only abused by a lot of users (Greg,
> perhaps you want to start logging the *!*@* usage to get some stats
> yourself) to create massjoinfloods, disrupt the channel activity and in that
> way be able to put load on the servers. *!*@* bans are NOT NEEDED TO BE USED
> by clients, perhaps in kick if they want to clean up the idlers, but then I
> suggest to limit the usage of kicks on *!*@* to 450, perhaps split the
> command apart and make a /msg X kickall <channel> <reason> instead
>
> Another funny issue you haven't thought about is the fact that unban is also
> affected by this issue, imagine having like 20 bans on a channel's banlist
> in X, someone adding a ban on *!*@*, now do the math and make an estimation
> what you need to do to remove this single ban without harming the other bans
> in the list.
>
