If one has nothing to hide, what does one get from using this feature? Every email so far has identified ways that bots could be restricted, with only the stick ("Use this or your bot is a kill target") as incentive to use it. Where is the carrot that makes bot owners *want* to use it?
While it is very good to think of limitations that work to make the network more responsive to users at the (possible) expense of bots, it seems impractical to convince the bot owners to want to use the flags. Until there is something that will convince them, it would be more productive to focus on other ways to detect or penalize over-use of network resources. --> There are different options to convince them. Some idea can be that a identified bot who has access in the specified channel is able to put bans in the channel when the banlist is full for exemple. They might get some advantages in the output off their banqueue / modequeue. This way they would be more efficient in stopping floods since they have the abilty to perform more things in the channel then the bots who are flooding the specified channel. You might even add a specific queue in the process X is running so X will be faster in opping identified channelbots. Maybe it is also an idea to retain the bot's host for a while on disconnect so he can reconnect faster and won't be throthled easely. This is off course a very specific example, but I think there are many things you can add to make a botowner choose for the patch instead off another way. Please don't mind the typos in my English writing :o) I am not used to write in English ;o) regards ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Real Name: Dimitri Logie IRC Name: éL NìçóS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Company: Systray Solutions URL: http://www.systray.be Contact: #Systray @ Krey.Net ------------------------------------------------------------------------