On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 04:31:42PM +1000, Ken Foskey wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 18:22 +0200, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> > <quote who="Ken Foskey">
> > 
> > > I need to ensure processes have not failed, proactive. Not find out what
> > > happened after someone tells me it is broken, reactive.  I do not think
> > > splunk can do that.
> > 
> > Right, well, neither will your logs in any serious fashion. What you're
> > looking for is Nagios (best of breed) and Cricket (or a similar tool).
> 
> splunk was a closer answer than the two above.  We are using Big Brother
> for this already and more.
> 
> I am interested in middle ware components,  some names I have heard of
> and not used are tibco and MQ series.  These components deliver messages
> reliably between systems and you can build some work flow into them
> which over time a set of rules is built so that processes are tracked.

A FOSS equivalent would be the JMS (java messaging) components
included in something like jboss.
I really don't think you want them though.

If you want reliable syslogging, you can do it over tcp.
Not that you'd be likely to lose much if anything on a LAN.

syslog-ng supports thjis I beleive.
http://www.balabit.com/products/syslog-ng/
syslog-ng FAQ : http://www.campin.net/syslog-ng/faq.html

There's a lot of stuff on logging and analysis at
http://www.loganalysis.org/

A semi-FOSS (and Australian!) bit of software that 
might be useful is the SNARE server:
http://www.intersectalliance.com

> Simple job flow:
> - File received into DMZ machine, bounced to format server.
> - File is received on the formatting server.
> - file contains 50,000 articles
>   - 100 are rejected by validation rules
> - print format
>   - 20,000 are sent to Victoria to process
>   - 20,000 are sent to NSW
>   - 8,000 are formatted but never printed, stopped at end point.
>   - 1,900 are sent for special handling.
>   - Were all files actually delivered and when?
> 
>   - 49,900 go to another end point for permanent storage.
> 
>   - reports go back to the client, when were they delivered.
> 
>   - Service Level Agreements how long did the above take?
> 
> There are a number of business rules to be built in.
> 
> Once we have the tracking element built we then extend to alerts.  File
> has been in format 2 hours and not come out.
> 
> I hope this make clearer why this is a coders post not a general post.
> I would love for a generic solution to this problem.

I see nothing in this post that marks it as suitable for coders
over the general slug list.

Matt

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