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Surely sendmail reeled when thusly spake Kari Seppälä:
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> Sakari Karipuro wrote:
> >
> > html works fine as long as it's done wisely. that's pretty much the jakob
> > nielsen way. :) html was never designed to describe layout. just
> > information.
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> And what is the use of "design", if it makes receiving of information
> difficult?
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> Most of these 'technically oriented webdesigners' seems that they've
> never even thought about that above...
> like they just want to show off: "look everyone, _I_ am a _designer_!"...
When you earn your living by using a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
If everything looked like a pipe, they'd fire you and hire a plumber.
> What's the difference between magazines made by amateurs and professionals?
>
> One made by pros is readable and good looking, one made by amateurs
> only tries to look like it 'has been designed'.
I was doing some teaching type stuff in 1986 and some of
the papers I got from students were absolute font chaos.
This one babe with a Mac was the absolute worst.
OTOH when I was a kid I had this printing press (yes a
real, live printing press !) and I also had this book
called "The Practice of Printing". Ya know what ? It
teaches basic style for printed matter, and it perfectly
relevant now, too. Basic style and ability to deliver
information doesn't change. What changes is the degree
of suffering that "designers" put us all thru. And the
Internet gave them lots of weaponry.
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