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In response to message from Heikki Kiviluoto: >i think the terms "progressive" or "experimental", on the other hand, are >the two most over-used and exaggerating terms within electronic dance music. >i've taken a strict music policy: whenever there's either one of the terms >mentioned , i'll ditch the record and buy some old soul, funk or jazz instead. You forgot "minimalism". Synonymous nowdays to "boring as fuck" or "didn't bother to program more than four bars". As a contrast Steve Reich's "Music for large ensemble"; lush, fast paced piece centered around massive repetition and subtle, shifting melodies I'd imagine your mother would enjoy just as much as any experimentonaut. No four bars are the same, yet it's all repetition. I heard Karl-Heinz Stockhausen has a piece called "Zyklus" that's about a drummer doing an absurdly long piece and never repeating a pattern. Anyone heard this one? I agree though, that in electronic dance music you can achieve certain effects not through composition but by production and output volume. "PK", produced by Richie Hawtin, that came out on M-nus couple of years ago was excellent Maurizio-styled buzzing 4/4 banger. Same can be said about a lot of Cologne stuff, where there's also simple rhythmical variations used to get the groove going. Take Mika Vainio and "Keimola ep" (Cheap) in example. Works like wonders on full blast. >to me most electronic music seems to have lost all progression, >innovativeness, any sense of rebellion and danger. there are exceptions, of >course, but most stuff nowadays is all boring genre-music with no real >experimentation or progression. At home I've been listening to Meat Beat Manifesto's first album, "Storm the studio" - from the second the needle hits the groove it's a full-on mayhem record. As a contrast to this contemporary studio twitching I just love people who ditch reasoning, smash the audience and create music from the sheer joy of expression. Or madness. Panasonic, Einst�rzende Neubauten, Bruce Gilbert, Coil or anyone who sets the stage they're performing on on fire is a friend of mine. I'd like to know more about this Eugenics Council. I heard they blew the roof out of one of the places they had a gig in. With explosives. And mutilated their singer. Also I would love to hear some really composed stuff for a change, although classical music pretty well satisfies that need. I'd imagine fans of Autechre digging Magnus Lindberg even if they had some preconceptions about classical. There's a book about the history of finnish electronic music coming out next week on Like publications called "On/Off". It's about all the few sixties and seventies heroes who built their own gear and *experimented* about what you could do with this new exciting technology. Erkki Kureniemi created Dimi-E synth that was "controlled" by brain waves and all the other stuff. What do we have now? Yamaha ravestation with push-the-button trance patterns. Joy and happiness for all!!! >"breakin down barriers and messin up heads" - i wish it'd still be so. Nowdays, if people hear something they don't like, they deem it as shit. If they cannot elaborate, I'd say they're full of it themselves. When hearing something one does not like, first question should be: why so? Is it because it really is shit? Or because ear is unaccustomed to it? Is there something of value there? An idea perhaps? Also, even if there would be a whole philosophical system behind this one piece of music, if it doesn't come across, it's artsy-fartsy shit. Unless music that the idea produces is interesting enough on its own, which was the case with some of the 60's/70's progressive- and kraut-bands and earlier experimentors. Popularity among masses ruins the electronic music because masses themselves are ruined and defile anything they touch. This is the way of the popular culture and I can't think how it could be otherwise for electronic music. Unimaginativity and the laziness of spirit are standout human qualities and the cultural climate doesn't promote much change. So it's the duty of the few to shine through. Geez. "My hands went to the keyboard and all I got was a rant." -kvantti naantali elektri siti jesse that makes a statement: http://www.winkingjesus.com/ _____________________________________________________________ Web based email address that makes a statement! http://www.ilovejesus.net -- Need a web host for your domain? Get 200 MB as low as $8.95 at http://www.christianwebhost.com
