Thanks sounds reasonable Colin. +1 to not using toString() as an API

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Chris Nauroth <cnaur...@hortonworks.com>
wrote:

> I'm in favor of making a statement in the compatibility guidelines that
> there is no guarantee of stability or backwards-compatibility for
> toString() output.  If a proposed patch introduces new dependencies on a
> stable toString() output, such as for UI display or object serialization,
> then I'd consider -1'ing it and instead asking that the logic move to a
> different method that can provide that guarantee, i.e. toStableString().
> There are further comments justifying this on HADOOP-13028 and HDFS-9732.
>
> --Chris Nauroth
>
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> On 5/12/16, 9:32 AM, "Colin McCabe" <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Recently a discussion came up on HADOOP-13028 about the wisdom of
> >overloading S3AInputStream#toString to output statistics information.
> >It's a difficult judgement for me to make, since I'm not aware of any
> >compatibility guidelines for InputStream#toString.  Do we have
> >compatibility guidelines for toString functions?
> >
> >It seems like the output of toString functions is usually used as a
> >debugging aid, rather than as a stable format suitable for UI display or
> >object serialization.  Clearly, there are a few cases where we might
> >want to specifically declare that a toString method is a stable API.
> >However, I think if we attempt to treat the toString output of all
> >public classes as stable, we will have greatly increased the API
> >surface.  Should we formalize this and declare that toString functions
> >are @Unstable, Evolving unless declared otherwise?
> >
> >best,
> >Colin
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