> On 23 May 2016, at 19:52, Allen Wittenauer 
> <allenwittena...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
> 
> Some potential ways to fix this:
> 
>       a) Move away from tomcat to one of the other two? three? maybe even 
> four? application servers that are already in the Apache Hadoop build
> 
>       b) Move to embedded tomcat so that the jars, etc, get downloaded as 
> part of the maven build
> 
>       Either of these should allow for us to also replace the bootstrap code 
> to use the standard Hadoop script bits and therefore give a much more 
> familiar look-and-feel on the command line, log file location, log file 
> naming, etc.
> 

+1

not jetty, as that migration is ongoing and complexity only makes things worse. 
Grizzly is on the classpath though


>       c) Require tomcat be downloaded and pointed at separately from outside 
> the build.  If it doesn’t exist, skip it.  (This has *HUGE* implications for 
> jenkins testing, however…)
> 
>       d) Switch the maven build (SMOP?) to always grab “the latest” from a 
> mirror and hope for the best
> 
> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I think the Tomcat situation is concerning in a lot of ways.
>> 
>> 1. We are downloading without authentication, using http rather than
>> https.
>> 2. We are downloading an obsolete release.
>> 3. Our build process is violating the apache.archive.org guidelines by
>> downloading from the site directly, rather than from a mirror.
>> 4. Clean builds take longer than necessary because this tar file needs
>> to be downloaded.
>> 
>> I'm not too familiar with how Tomcat works... does anyone have any ideas
>> for fixing this?
>> 
>> best,
>> Colin
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016, at 14:08, Wangda Tan wrote:
>>> Hi common-devs,
>>> 
>>> When I tried to build Hadoop trunk today, Maven build failed because kms
>>> failed to download:
>>> http://archive.apache.org/dist/tomcat/tomcat-6/v6.0.44/bin/apache-tomcat-6.0.44.tar.gz
>>> .
>>> 
>>> When I open the link from browser, it shows bandwidth limit exceeded:
>>> 
>>> ===
>>> Bandwidth limit exceeded
>>> 
>>> The daily allowance of 5GB for this IP has been exceeded, and downloads
>>> disabled until midnight, UTC (circa 21 hours from now).
>>> If you have any questions about this, feel free to reach out to us at
>>> infrastruct...@apache.org.
>>> ===
>>> 
>>> Then I investigated a little more, there're two issues from what I can
>>> see
>>> 1) If you look at http://archive.apache.org/dist/, it clearly says:
>>> *> Please do not download from apache.org <http://apache.org>!*
>>> 
>>> 2) And also, http://archive.apache.org/dist/ says:
>>>> Older *non-recommended* releases can be found on our archive site
>>> <http://archive.apache.org/dist/>.
>>> 
>>> We're using tomcat with version=6.0.44, on other Apache mirror site, only
>>> 6.0.45 tomcat is downloadable. Which essentially means 6.0.44 is a
>>> non-recommended release.
>>> 
>>> I would like to propose to make following changes:
>>> 1) Update tomcat download site from apache.org to another mirror.
>>> 2) Upgrade tomcat from 6.0.44 to 6.0.45.
>>> 
>>> But would like to hear your thoughts before filing JIRA.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Wangda
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