Hi Ray, if you're going to do a wiki cleanup, fair warning that I filed this INFRA JIRA about the wiki being terribly slow, and they closed it as WONTFIX:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-12283 So if you'd actually like to undertake a wiki cleanup, we should also consider migrating the content to a wiki that isn't terribly slow. I think cwiki.apache.org is better, but maybe we should ask infra what the preferred option is here. They might be able to help with a content migration too. On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Ray Chiang <rchi...@apache.org> wrote: > Coming in late to an old thread. > > I was looking around at the Hadoop documentation (hadoop.apache.org and > wiki.apache.org/hadoop) and I'd sum up the current state of the > documentation as follows: > > 1. hadoop.apache.org is pretty clearly full of technical information. > My only minor nit here is that the wiki pointer and the Git pointer > at the top is really tiny. > 2. wiki.apache.org is simultaneously targeted to at least four audiences > 1. Industry Users (broadest sense of Big Data Industry) > 2. Industry Developers (mostly those adding a layer like Hive does > to MapReduce) > 3. Hadoop Users (those who just want to set up a small cluster) > 4. Hadoop Developers (e.g. using MapReduce APIs) > 5. Hadoop Internal Developers (eventual contributors) > > I'd like to initiate some cleanup of the wiki, but before I even start, > I'd like to see if anyone has constructive suggestions or other approaches > that would make this transition smoother. > > 1. Some sections, like Industry Users and Industry Developers is > growing so fast, I'm not sure whether it's worth maintaining in any > meaningful format. I'd be inclined to make suggestions on where to > start and let Google take them forward from there. > 2. Organize the developer section based on the pieces a new reader > wants to learn (new to everything, new to Hadoop, all the tools for > Hadoop development, "just check out code and go", etc). > 3. Organize the Users section a bit more. The "Setting up a Hadoop > Cluster" is grouped well, but I'd perhaps rearrange the ordering a bit. > > -Ray > > > On 7/14/16 3:49 PM, Andrew Wang wrote: > >> I think we should try to keep ownership over the #hadoop channel (do we >> have ownership?) but make it clear on the website and in the channel >> greeting that this is for user-on-user discussion, and it's not actively >> monitored by developers. >> >> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Akira AJISAKA < >> ajisa...@oss.nttdata.co.jp> >> wrote: >> >> I'm not using the IRC channel (#hadoop at irc.freenode.net.) >>> I'm using slack (hadoopdev.slack.com) instead. >>> >>> -Akira >>> >>> >>> On 7/14/16 14:48, Ravi Prakash wrote: >>> >>> I've never gone there either. +1 for retiring. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:34 PM, J. Rottinghuis < >>>> jrottingh...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Uhm, there is an IRC channel?!? >>>> >>>>> Joep >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Sangjin Lee <sj...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I seldom check out IRC (as my experience was the same). I'm OK with >>>>> >>>>>> retiring it if no committers are around. >>>>>> >>>>>> On a related note, I know Tsuyoshi set up a slack channel for the >>>>>> committers. Even that one is pretty idle. :) Should we use it more >>>>>> often? >>>>>> If that starts to gain traction, we could set up a more open room for >>>>>> >>>>>> users >>>>> >>>>> as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sangjin >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Karthik Kambatla <ka...@cloudera.com >>>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Recently, Andrew Wang and I were at an academic conference where one >>>>>> of >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>> attendees (a grad student) was mentioning that his posts to the IRC >>>>>>> >>>>>>> channel >>>>>> >>>>>> are never answered. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Personally, I haven't been using the IRC channel. Neither do I know >>>>>>> >>>>>>> anyone >>>>>> >>>>>> who is actively monitoring it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am emailing to check: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Are there folks actively monitoring the IRC channel and >>>>>>> answering >>>>>>> questions? >>>>>>> 2. If there is no one, should we consider retiring the channel? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> Karthik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: common-dev-unsubscr...@hadoop.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: common-dev-h...@hadoop.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >
