On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Eric Yang <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
> I am looking for a way to reduce time spent on testing latest commits.
> [...]
> People who did the
> feature merge is likely already did the full build test to ensure they
> didn't break trunk, but there is no easy indicator where the rebase start
> and ends.

OK, I think I understand. If we force a merge commit (i.e., specify
--no-ff during the merge) then I think that has the property you're
looking for without squashing all the history into a single commit. -C

> Therefore, other people will have to spend extra time to test
> each commit individually.  It reduces the productivity for me to prove that
> my pre-commit patch unit test failure was caused by other's check in.  I
> lost the entire day to isolate trunk build breakage for node manager was
> caused by YARN-7381, and I was only able to find this base on github method
> to sort commits by date instead of git log approach of showing commit
> histories.  If I was testing this one by one based on git log, then I am
> probably not done testing yet.  If we can propose to use merge without
> rebase for trunk, it might be more efficient for analyze bugs for
> pre-commit builds.
>
> regards,
> Eric
>
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Chris Douglas <cdoug...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Eric-
>>
>> What problem are you trying to solve? Most of us understand how git works,
>> you can omit that. -C
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:31 PM Eric Yang <ey...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>
>> > We are currently requesting committer to commit code base on:
>> > https://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/HowToCommit
>> >
>> > To set branch.autosetuprebase always:
>> >
>> > Base on the current preference, the history is linear, and it is
>> described
>> > in this graph as Rebase and Merge:
>> >
>> >
>> > https://wac-cdn.atlassian.com/dam/jcr:df39b1f1-2686-4ee5-
>> 90bf-9836783342ce/10.svg?cdnVersion=iq
>> >
>> > It could cause a false alarm on blaming the wrong person for trunk
>> > breakage because it takes more time to iterate through all commits from
>> > feature branch, while the recent commits (blue dots), are much further
>> back
>> > in history base on the rebase.  If it was only one merge commit, it would
>> > be faster to skip through the entire branch and find recent breakages.
>> >
>> > When there are several feature branches merged in short period of time,
>> > the extra work done to check history revision of branches took much more
>> > time.  This is a pain point for people that care about trunk stability
>> but
>> > can’t afford all day to run full build base on each commit to isolate the
>> > breakage.
>> >
>> > I understand your usage for looking at multiple branches to find a commit
>> > to make sure maintenance branches have the proper commits or backport.
>> > Rebase + merge works best for maintenance branches.  However, I am not
>> > convinced that rebase + merge strategy is the efficient way to manage
>> trunk
>> > stability.  Is there be a better way to manage this?  Probably, we can
>> > recommend trunk to use merge without rebase, but maintenance branches
>> apply
>> > rebase + merge strategy.  Thoughts?
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > Eric
>> >
>> > On 12/14/17, 5:16 PM, "Chris Douglas" <cdoug...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >     I'm sorry, I literally don't understand what you've written. What do
>> > clicks
>> >     on github have to do with merges?
>> >
>> >     Are you talking about git bisect, where one would first identify the
>> > branch
>> >     where the error was introduced, then run a second regression over the
>> >     feature branch? With similar semantics for blame?
>> >
>> >     Again, I'd rather have the history of the branch, with rebases prior
>> to
>> >     merge to ensure that feature branches don't create particularly
>> > complicated
>> >     graphs.
>> >
>> >     Perhaps I haven't understood the problem you're solving. The thread
>> > started
>> >     with confusion over dates. Is that the problem? Or that rebases
>> create
>> >     intermediate states that never existed on the branch (due to
>> > conflicts),
>> >     and that complicates analysis? -C
>> >
>> >     On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:31 PM Eric Yang <ey...@hortonworks.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >     > When details are rebased, the number of entries to test through the
>> > linear
>> >     > history is much more than a merge point to isolate where the error
>> > might
>> >     > have occurred.  It is similar to traverse a tree structure, for
>> each
>> >     > branch, there are n branches to walk through.  If we can know where
>> > the
>> >     > problem is before traverse to individual branches.  It can
>> expertise
>> > the
>> >     > process to find the root cause.  IMHO, I think the number of clicks
>> > between
>> >     > pagination vs drop down on github branch selection, the later seems
>> > more
>> >     > work, but it is usually less clicks for feature branches that lived
>> > for a
>> >     > couple months.
>> >     >
>> >     > Regards,
>> >     > Eric
>> >     >
>> >     > On 12/14/17, 2:09 PM, "Chris Douglas" <cdoug...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >     >
>> >     >     I'd rather have the history. Otherwise tools like blame point
>> > only to
>> >     >     a parent/umbrella JIRA, not the issue where the change was
>> > discussed.
>> >     >
>> >     >     We can force a merge commit so it's clear the branch was
>> > developed
>> >     >     outside the mainline. -C
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >     On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Eric Yang <
>> > ey...@hortonworks.com>
>> >     > wrote:
>> >     >     > +1 on squash merge to keep history compressed.  The rebase +
>> > merge
>> >     > contains good deals, but it is easy to get confused for people that
>> > doesn’t
>> >     > know about the rebase option is turned on by default for Hadoop.
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > Regards,
>> >     >     > Eric
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > On 12/14/17, 12:06 PM, "Arun Suresh" <asur...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >     Another option - atleast for feature branches is to maybe
>> > squash
>> >     > merge -
>> >     >     >     this way we see it as a single commit ? Although we will
>> > loose
>> >     > the feature
>> >     >     >     branch history (I am ok with that though)
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >     Cheers
>> >     >     >     -Arun
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >     On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Eric Yang <
>> >     > ey...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > Thank you for the pointer.  I guess all merge are done
>> > using
>> >     > rebase +
>> >     >     >     > merge.  This is the reason that timeline is out of
>> order.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > Would it be more useful to merge without rebasing for
>> > feature
>> >     > branch merge
>> >     >     >     > to avoid timeline confusions?  The argument for not
>> > rebasing,
>> >     > it would be
>> >     >     >     > easier to find the root cause of trunk failure was due
>> to
>> >     > merge or some
>> >     >     >     > recent commits.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > Regards,
>> >     >     >     > Eric
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > From: Sunil G <sun...@apache.org>
>> >     >     >     > Date: Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 11:11 AM
>> >     >     >     > To: Eric Yang <ey...@hortonworks.com>
>> >     >     >     > Cc: Hadoop Common <common-dev@hadoop.apache.org>
>> >     >     >     > Subject: Re: Missing some trunk commit history
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > Hi Eric.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > A branch merge has happened during that time, and hence
>> > you
>> >     > might have
>> >     >     >     > seen some old commits from that branch. If you go down
>> >     > further, you could
>> >     >     >     > see those commits.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > Copied from my git log:
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > commit 40b0045ebe0752cd3d1d09be00acbabdea983799
>> >     >     >     > Author: Weiwei Yang <w...@apache.org<mailto:
>> > w...@apache.org>>
>> >     >     >     > Date:   Wed Dec 6 17:52:41 2017 +0800
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     >     YARN-7610. Extend Distributed Shell to support
>> > launching
>> >     > job with
>> >     >     >     > opportunistic containers. Contributed by Weiwei Yang.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > commit 56b1ff80dd9fbcde8d21a604eff0babb3a16418f
>> >     >     >     > Author: Xiao Chen <x...@apache.org<mailto:
>> > x...@apache.org>>
>> >     >     >     > Date:   Tue Dec 5 20:48:02 2017 -0800
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     >     HDFS-12872. EC Checksum broken when
>> BlockAccessToken
>> > is
>> >     > enabled.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > commit 05c347fe51c01494ed8110f8f116a01c90205f13
>> >     >     >     > Author: Weiwei Yang <w...@apache.org<mailto:
>> > w...@apache.org>>
>> >     >     >     > Date:   Wed Dec 6 12:21:52 2017 +0800
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     >     YARN-7611. Node manager web UI should display
>> > container
>> >     > type in
>> >     >     >     > containers page. Contributed by Weiwei Yang.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > commit 73b86979d661f4ad56fcfc3a05a403dfcb2a860e
>> >     >     >     > Author: Kai Zheng <zhengkai...@alibaba-inc.com<mailto:
>> >     > zhengkai.zk@alibaba-
>> >     >     >     > inc.com>>
>> >     >     >     > Date:   Wed Dec 6 12:01:36 2017 +0800
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     >     HADOOP-15039. Move SemaphoredDelegatingExecutor to
>> >     > hadoop-common.
>> >     >     >     > Contributed by Genmao Yu
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > commit 44b06d34a537f8b558007cc92a5d1a8e59b5d86b
>> >     >     >     > Author: Akira Ajisaka <aajis...@apache.org<mailto:
>> >     > aajis...@apache.org>>
>> >     >     >     > Date:   Wed Dec 6 11:40:33 2017 +0900
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     >     HDFS-12889. Router UI is missing robots.txt file.
>> >     > Contributed by
>> >     >     >     > Bharat Viswanadham.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > commit 0311cf05358cd75388f48f048c44fba52ec90f00
>> >     >     >     > Author: Wangda Tan <wan...@apache.org<mailto:
>> > wan...@apache.org
>> >     > >>
>> >     >     >     > Date:   Tue Dec 5 13:09:49 2017 -0800
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     >     YARN-7381. Enable the configuration:
>> >     > yarn.nodemanager.log-container-debug-info.enabled
>> >     >     >     > by default in yarn-default.xml. (Xuan Gong via wangda)
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     >     Change-Id: I1ed58dafad5cc276eea5c0b0813cf
>> 04f57d73a87
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > commit 6555af81a26b0b72ec3bee7034e01f5bd84b1564
>> >     >     >     > Author: Aaron Fabbri <fab...@apache.org<mailto:
>> >     > fab...@apache.org>>
>> >     >     >     > Date:   Tue Dec 5 11:06:32 2017 -0800
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     >     HADOOP-14475 Metrics of S3A don't print out when
>> > enabled.
>> >     > Contributed
>> >     >     >     > by Younger and Sean Mackrory.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > - Sunil
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 12:29 AM Eric Yang <
>> >     > ey...@hortonworks.com<mailto:
>> >     >     >     > ey...@hortonworks.com>> wrote:
>> >     >     >     > Hi all,
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > While troubleshooting a trunk build failure, I notice
>> the
>> >     > commit history
>> >     >     >     > for trunk between Nov 30th to Dec 6th are squashed or
>> >     > disappeared for no
>> >     >     >     > reason.  This seems to have taken place in the last 24
>> > hours.
>> >     > I can see
>> >     >     >     > the commit logs from github UI.  When doing a new clone
>> > from
>> >     > Apache Git and
>> >     >     >     > Github, the commit histories between those dates are
>> > gone.  I
>> >     > usually
>> >     >     >     > maintain two git repositories, one for testing and one
>> > for
>> >     > development.
>> >     >     >     > Both repositories were sync up with github frequently,
>> > and
>> >     > only test
>> >     >     >     > repository was updated today and the missing history
>> only
>> >     > reflect in test
>> >     >     >     > repository.  This is the reason that I have the
>> > impression
>> >     > that this might
>> >     >     >     > have happened in the last 24 hours.  I did some spot
>> > check to
>> >     > see if the
>> >     >     >     > missing commits are in trunk.  The code seems to be in
>> > place,
>> >     > and only
>> >     >     >     > commit history is gone.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > Is there any way to fix the commit history?  Hopefully
>> > this is
>> >     > not a git
>> >     >     >     > bug, but some peer review might find out the root cause
>> > that
>> >     > could help to
>> >     >     >     > understand the damage.  Thank you
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > Regards,
>> >     >     >     > Eric
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
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