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Philip Zeyliger commented on HADOOP-9160:
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I'm not a committer on this project, so my comments are obviously advisory 
only, and if you get support, you're welcome to disregard me.

* It sounds like you're using Jolokia not so much for the JMX-ness as for its 
alternative authentication model.  Something about the tools you're handling 
can't handle the SPNEGO(?) model for the HTTP-based (REST) APIs, and so you're 
introducing a separate HTTP server (Jolokia) to handle that.  Is it the 
protocol that's causing interoporability issues or the authentication model?  
The auth models are already pluggable.  I wish we'd talk about concrete tools 
that you're integrating--I'm surprised they speak Jolokia but not HTTP.

* Similarly, I'd like to understand whether, in your ideal world, you could, 
say, read a file or call "hdfs upgrade" over JMX?

* We've spent considerable effort getting backwards-compatible protocols in 
place for the wire protocol (via protocol buffers) and the client interfaces 
(via annotations).  Opening up another layer of RPC exposes us to more issues 
here.




                
> Adopt Jolokia as the JMX HTTP/JSON bridge.
> ------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HADOOP-9160
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-9160
>             Project: Hadoop Common
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Luke Lu
>            Assignee: Junping Du
>              Labels: features
>         Attachments: hadoop-9160-demo-branch-1.txt, HADOOP-9160.patch
>
>
> The current JMX HTTP bridge has served its purpose, while a more complete 
> solution: Jolokia (formerly Jmx4Perl) has been developed/matured over the 
> years.
> Jolokia provides comprehensive JMX features over HTTP/JSON including search 
> and list of JMX attributes and operations metadata, which helps to support 
> inter framework/platform compatibility. It has first class language bindings 
> for Perl, Python, Javascript, Java.
> It's trivial (see demo patch) to incorporate Jolokia servlet into Hadoop HTTP 
> servers and use the same security mechanisms.
> Adopting Jolokia will substantially improve the manageability of Hadoop and 
> its ecosystem.

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