Sorry man, I got a bit explosive.

(Am I turning on a new Jon??? eeeeeeeekkk!!!)
=;o)


It is frustrating to repeat again and again the same thing
(and even spending a couple of hours packing the code) and
see no results.

(Sh*t! The same thing Jon says!)


Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:52 PM
>
>
> Understood.  I am learning by responding to Robert's questions.  I have
> actually looked at your code, Paulo.  I am just responding in the ways
> that I have thought about it.  Peter and Ceki do have the handle on
> logging, I agree.
>
> Scott
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:07 PM
> > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > Subject: RE: how should log levels work? [Was Re: [Logging]
> > default log level]
> >
> >
> > That is what the wrappers I took from Avalon that I posted
> > AGES AGO do!
> >
> > You are relearning all the stuff from zero instead of looking
> > at tested code written by people with more experience on
> > logging (not me - Peter Donald).
> >
> > I once saw a minimal common interface for logging from Ceki
> > and basically it was very much as the one that Peter designed
> > too. This means that the logging guys agree at least on this
> > interface (and not much else (o;= ).
> >
> > It would be great to just learn from their experience, no?
> >
> >
> > Have fun,
> > Paulo Gaspar
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Scott Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:55 PM
> > > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > > Subject: RE: how should log levels work? [Was Re: [Logging] default
> > > log level]
> > >
> > >
> > > As long as isInfoEnabled and isDebugEnabled is supportable, I think
> > > that getLevel and setLevel can be removed from the
> > interface and only
> > > exist on the SimpleLog.
> > >
> > > I think that configuration is outside of this wrapper, and this
> > > demarcates that very clearly.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: robert burrell donkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:58 AM
> > > > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > > > Subject: Re: how should log levels work? [Was Re:
> > [Logging] default
> > > > log level]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, January 10, 2002, at 06:45 PM, Scott Sanders wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Does this also remove the isInfoEnabled and isDebugEnabled?
> > > >
> > > > LogKit has these so we do have delegated implementations of these
> > > > methods for all currently supported log system.
> > > >
> > > > the more i think about it, the more it seems to me that
> > if we want a
> > > > log level property  then it should be implemented internally in
> > > > commons-logging.
> > > >
> > > > - robert
> > > >
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