Gregory,
> here is what I am worried about[:] OS projects like ours use Clover and
JIRA
> and who knows what other NON-OS projects in the future. Clover rocks, JIRA
> is pretty and all. Users and developers like us learn these systems, new
> users and developers do NOT learn the OS Bugzilla and others, the OS
> versions get less and less feedback and slowly die.
I do appreciate were you are coming from. On the flipside, bugzilla has
been an impediment in many ways to our own Open Source development, and it
seems to me that our primary responsibility is to our projects. In terms of
administration, Jira appears to be substantially better for us (the ASF)
than bugzilla without major changes to bugzilla. Forget the fact that we
have an ancient installation that no one wants to maintain; even the current
version would not be as easy for us to use as an organization that bugzilla.
And then toss in that Atlassian is not only giving us a free license, they
are supporting us -- including making changes to the project.
If Scarab were an ASF project, I'd be wanting to see us do more with our own
dogfood, but it isn't. I'm not even sure of the open source version of
Scarab is going to be viable, but if it is in the future, and people care to
review it again, that would be fine. It is still installed on nagoya, and
the new server will be issues.apache.org to make sure that we aren't tied
to just one system.
--- Noel
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