On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 22:18 +0000, robert burrell donkin wrote: > On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 07:24, Torsten Curdt wrote: > > TBH I am pretty much sick of those discussion > > whether to use JCL or not that come up in other > > projects. IMHO it would be great to fix (as > > good as possible) what people are complaining > > about. > > JCL lacks energy and community. it's a tough project to work on and it's > a pretty thankless task. i think that there's hope but only if the > community can rally round.
Well, by my count the following people are actually willing to work on fixing JCL: * Robert Donkin * Richard Sitze * Torsten Curdt? * Brian Stansberry * Simon Kitching (me). + Ceki offering his views + Tomas Znamenacek ? I think that is sufficient to get some momentum on this - particularly if tomcat/geronimo/other teams are willing to do some testing of releases to make sure we don't break anything badly. As you say, it's a tough and tricky project. But I expect we all work with container-style projects on a regular basis so it's in our own interests to get this right :-). And intellectually I find it an interesting project to get to grips with - I expect we'll all be experts on classloaders + related issues by the time this is sorted! What I'm trying to do at the moment is actually put together a "requirements document" for logging, after which I intend to see how UGLI fits the requirements so I can understand how static resolution fares versus the current dynamic stuff. If anyone's already created a list of logging requirements (including required behaviour when classloaders are involved), then please point me at the info so I can save my time! Cheers, Simon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
