We have all agreed that some of the Jelly API needs to change. The thinking
is along your line: it's been so long, we need the momentum on 1.0. Also,
even API changes might not change the Tag API (or might leave room for
backward compatibility), which is what allot of Jelly infrastructure is
written to.

In terms of Marmalade, you just reminded me to go take a look...
developer... pool... beginning... to.... dwindle. Kidding. The thing is that
it's not, to my knowledge, seen nearly as much use a Jelly so you really
can't compare the number of bug reports.

Aside from something that cares about long compile times for the scripts or
required pluggable expressions, what is Jelly unusable for?

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Kitching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:41 PM
To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
Subject: Re: [jelly] distribution format

On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 13:12 +1200, Simon Kitching wrote:
> And
> the lack of bugzilla entries and user/development questions also implies
> that Jelly is fine as-is.

umm .. the lack of Bugzilla entries is probably because Jelly uses
Jira :-(.

Jira has quite a few bug entries (73).

It looks like there are quite a few bugs that really should be addressed
before a 1.0 release because it looks to me like they have the potential
to change Jelly behaviour - after a 1.0 release, that would mean going
to 2.0 I believe.

On the other hand, we need to consider that Jelly have any regular
maintainers. And if Maven2 moves to Marmalade (marmalade.codehaus.org)
instead of Jelly the developer pool will drop even further. So saying no
to a 1.0 release now may mean saying no to a 1.0 release forever -
despite the fact that Jelly is clearly useable for many purposes right
now. I don't know which is the best choice...

Regards,

Simon



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