Dear Walu et al? Liquid has been on Zimbabwean Media over successfull V6 deployment. Andrew , what is impeding deployment of the same in Kenya?
Regards On 10/10/16, Walubengo J via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote: > @Mwendwa,>>> > What can you do? > - Government Organizations: Coordinate with industry to support and > promote awareness and educational activities. Adopt regulatory and economic > incentives to encourage IPv6 adoption. Require IPv6 compatibility in > procurement procedures. Officially adopt IPv6 within your government > agencies. >>>>The above text is what we were looking for to include in our revised .KE >>>> ICT Policy. How I wish you had shared this earlier :-) > walu. > > From: Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: Mwendwa Kivuva <[email protected]>; General Discussions of > AFRINIC <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 11:55 AM > Subject: Re: [kictanet] [Community-Discuss] Liquid Telecom warns of looming > address shortage - Daily Nation > > This is an extremely important debate for the continent. Thank you Ali for > that. > Some of these issues have been debated thoroughly in several forums. It's > very important we continue debating them until we see an exponential growth > of IPv6 in the continent.To answer a few questions, there is a clear > justification on why it is necessary to migrate to IPv6. Among them: > - There are no enough IPv4 remaining for everyone. There are more > devices, and people on earth than IPv4. Maximum IPv4 addresses are 4billion. > Population of Earth is 7.3Billion. Maximum IPv6 address 3.4×10 38 > - Migration will not happen overnight since the recommended > implementation is dual-stacking; that is, running IPv4 and IPv6 in parallel. > We are not telling people to do away with IPv4, but to run the two protocols > in parallel. > - To be a producer of information, you cannot use a shared IP, you need a > dedicated IP. This has been a big challenge in the continent. We have > stifled innovation by using shared IPs. > - There are many services now around the world which are IPv6 only > website and services. If you are not on IPv6, you cannot get to these > networks. Africa may get into what I can call "Information dark age" if we > cannot acess some parts of the Internet. > - IPv6 is necessary for business growth. How? How will your business > scale when IPv4 has run out? > What has AFRINIC done to bridge the gap?1. Trainings. This year alone, > AFRINIC is conducting free IPv6 trainings to over 23 countries across the > continent. Kenya was among the beneficiaries. Check this link > http://www.afrinic.net/services/training > AFRINIC has an extensive training program provides free training to over 600 > network engineers per year on Internet Number Resources Management (INRM) > and IPv6 Planning and Deployment. Our training courses are always growing to > support the technologies related to Internet resources, including DNSSEC & > RPKI. AFRINIC's IPv6 course are IPv6 Forum (Gold) Certified and are fully > hands-on, making use of extensive IPv6 testbed access which gives > participants hands-on experience on real equipment to configure, test and > troubleshoot IPv6. > > 2. AFRINIC has a Government Working Group (AfGWG). Here government players > are brought together to be sensitized on the need to push for IPv6 adoption, > and rollout of IXPs, among other. Here is the > link https://meeting.afrinic.net/afgwg/ > 3. Issuance of v6 blocks to ISPs. All ISPs have been issued V6 blocks by > AFRINIC. What we should be seeing now is clients insisting they want the > ISPs to pass the benefits to the end users. > What can you do? > - Government Organizations: Coordinate with industry to support and > promote awareness and educational activities. Adopt regulatory and economic > incentives to encourage IPv6 adoption. Require IPv6 compatibility in > procurement procedures. Officially adopt IPv6 within your government > agencies. > - Broadband Access Providers: Your customers want access to the entire > Internet, and this means IPv4 and IPv6 websites. Offering full access > requires running IPv4/IPv6 transition services and is a significant > engineering project. Multiple transition technologies are available, and > each provider needs to make their own architectural decisions. > - Internet Service Providers: Implement a plan that will allow your > customers to connect to the Internet via IPv6 and IPv6/IPv4, not just IPv4. > Businesses are beginning to ask for IPv6 over their existing Internet > connections and for their co-located servers. Communicate with your peers > and vendors about IPv6, and confirm their timelines for production IPv6 > services. > - Internet Content Providers: Content must be reachable to future > Internet customers. Plan on serving content via IPv6 in addition to IPv4 as > soon as possible. > - Enterprise Customers: Email, web, and application servers must be > reachable via IPv6 in addition to IPv4. Open a dialogue with your ISP about > providing IPv6 services. Each organization must decide on timelines, and > investment level will vary. > > What is the role of Internet Service Providers (ISPs) in deploying IPv6?This > link > https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/afripv6-discuss/attachments/20160710/f7e693ac/attachment-0001.pdf > contains some very interesting statistics and findings on V6 deployments > around the world, shared at the OECD Ministerial Meeting in June2016. One > lesson we can learn from this is work very closely with ISPs. That seems to > be the solution in the success stories. > > *Some statistics on deployments*Belgium 55.11%,Germany 34.50%,United States > 32.83%Greece 28.53%Portugal 25.80%Ecuador 20.8%,Peru 19.35%,Estonia > 17,32%Japan 16.61%,Canada 9.83%Norway 6.65%Bolivia 3.8%Italy 0.73%Spain > 0.7%Denmark 0.61% > Some interesting findings is that deployment depends on the large ISPs > uptake of v6 regardless of economic circumstances. e.g Peru has a lower per > capita but has more deployment than Norway. Portugal with $22,000/capita and > Greece $21,000/capita are outperforming Denmark with $60,000/capita. Canada > $45,000/capita is trailing Estonia with $19,000/capita. > In the success stories, the majority of the commercial access market > products have IPv6 enabled by default, and competing products have matching > features. > > Regards > > ______________________ > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya > twitter.com/lordmwesh > > > > On 10 October 2016 at 11:44, Joseph Mucheru via kictanet > <[email protected]> wrote: > > That said, do we have any experts on DOA? I personally believe this is the > way forward... > https://www.google.co.kr/url? sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url= > https://www.itu.int/ITU-D/arb/ ARO/2011/CyberSecurityForum- > Eg/Docs/Doc11-Sorene_18-12- 2011.pptx&ved=0ahUKEwjsv8jc3c_ > PAhUU82MKHeXuALIQFggZMAA&usg= AFQjCNGzWEx4VBdgLQYrceW- eme4GvjaWwThanks > On 10 Oct 2016 4:37 PM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" > <[email protected] > wrote: > > Andrew > Thank you so much for that informative response. > So let's paint a scenario. > Say, v4 exhausts in say 3 years. What are the implications for the continent > esp those who will not have migrated? > Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 > Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.c > om/in/alihkassim > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what > no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi > Sent from my iPad > On 10 Oct 2016, at 9:25 AM, Andrew Alston <[email protected] om> > wrote: > > > Hi Ali, If I may respond here. Firstly – I think we need to be careful > about referring to blanket transition – what Liquid has said is, we have to > be ready with dual-stack networks. As v4 runs out – that dual-stack becomes > more and more critical because it will enable the full transition when the > time comes for it. How soon that will come is hard to say – but it is > coming. What are the major impediments? There are 2 or 3 major points > here: a.) Lack of will to actually do it – it takes work, it takes time, > it takes effort – and the will power to actually move beyond talking the > talk into walking the walk doesn’t seem to be thereb.) Lack of > understanding/skill – The fact is that implementing v6 vs implementing v4 – > it’s just another protocol, same routing, same everything. But there is a > fear factor walking into something that is misunderstood. That lack of > understanding that you can build this simultaneously in the same way you > build v4, creates the fear factor. The fear of handling addressing plans in > hexadecimal is also prohibiting growth. I run into that one a lot – people > having issues with the address planning.c.) The last question is the > million dollar one – because the reality is – all it takes is will power and > a willingness to actually take some action. The simple fact is – we had a > relatively small team on this – we committed a bunch of hours – we stuck our > heads down and did it. We did not spend money – other than the cost of the > time (which is an OPEX cost admittedly). We said ourselves deadlines and we > DID it. There are those who propose that setting policies to try and force > v6 is workable – it’s not – unless the will is there it will achieve > nothing. People have to WANT this. It is a matter of desire and a matter > of seeing the benefits – the benefits are future proofing – they are not > based on revenue generation, but more revenue retention. And if anyone wants > to see just how much impact you can have with a small team that actually has > the desire, please see the following stats out of Zimbabwe (our largest > consumer market) http://stats.labs.apnic.net/ip > v6/ZW?b=20161001&d=10http://stats.labs.apnic.net/ip > v6/AS30969?b=20161001&d=10http://stats.labs.apnic.net/ip > v6/XB?b=20161001&d=10 (I see things have slightly dropped off today, these > stats tend to fluctuate, but fact is – it’s out there and it > work’s. Andrew From: Ali Hussein <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, 10 October 2016 at 09:01 > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected] >, > General Discussions of AFRINIC <[email protected] > > Subject: [Community-Discuss] Liquid Telecom warns of looming address > shortage - Daily Nation Dear listersGreetings and apologies for > cross-posting.Internet service provider Liquid Telecom Kenya has warned that > Africa is set to run out of Internet Protocol (IP) addresses as early as > next year, potentially slowing down digital growth in the continent.Read > on:-http://www.nation.co.ke/busine ss/Liquid-Telecom-warns-of- > looming-address-shortage/996- 3410850-format-xhtml-aub5sm/ index.htmlCouple > of questions:-1. How involved are we as a community in ensuring the smooth > transition from IPV4 to IPV6?2. What have been the major impediments to the > successful migration?3. 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