On 20/04/2017 14:28, Noah wrote: > Hi Badru > > People are talking about targeting executive branches of governments > not knowing that most of the shutdown that have happened in the past > including the one in Cameroon has a lot to do with the local countries > politics, policies and regulation. Some countries governments don't > shutdown the internet but they have some crazy regulations that censor > the cyber space that you would not even want to live there. > > For any organization to get number resources, the applicants are > vetted by AFRINIC against their countries regulations (license of > operation) which are a prerequisite for getting the IP resources from > AFRINIC. This kind of relationship has existed between AFRINIC and all > regulatory bodies in all countries that AFRINIC serve. What this > basically mean is that if the country decided to deny an entity a > license to operate, that entity cant access number resources from > AFRINIC which means its only the local regulations that determine > internet development, expansion and freedom and not AFRINIC.
Ah - but this is not necessarily true. In South Africa, we were getting IP resources before there were ISP licenses. You also don't need an ISP license to do Web Hosting - and as I understand, neither the ZACR or DNS in South Africa have ISP licenses - but run the ccTLD between them. Both organisations have their own address space. The same goes for JINX (CINX/DINX) the ISPAs exchange points. No licenses. Some people with their own infrastructure at Teraco (data warehouse) - no licenses - but they have address space. Universities don't have licenses either. That probably holds true for all African countries. I'd guess End users generally fall into this category. I guess governments do too. AFRINIC staff use there best ability to decide on the requirements. a License is a reasonably easy criteria to ask for but I believe that if AFRINIC was aware that the government was not playing fair - then licenses would not be a criteria to getting address space. However, if you apply as an ISP and need a license but can't operate in that country - then I guess you wouldn't need address space. I am sure if you have a college and apply to AFRINIC - you'll be able to get address space. > Dont bite the hand that feeds you. I rest my case... > > Noah > > On 18 Apr 2017 5:44 p.m., "Badru Ntege" <badru.nt...@nftconsult.com > <mailto:badru.nt...@nftconsult.com>> wrote: > > +1 Noah well put. > > If we do not seek to understand through dialogue we become the > same as those forcing shutdowns where unfortunately for us in > reality we have very limited bargaining powers with a sovereign > state. As much as we might want to think otherwise. > > Regards > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss@afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss -- Mark James ELKINS - Posix Systems - (South) Africa m...@posix.co.za Tel: +27.128070590 Cell: +27.826010496 For fast, reliable, low cost Internet in ZA: https://ftth.posix.co.za
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