Owen

I like your attempt to get scientific here.  Up until a certain email was 
publicly shared and read by most of us who are responding we had no opinions on 
this issue.

We are all reasonably intelligent to make our own conclusions on the matter at 
hand.

In any part of the world it is not normal nor is it accepted for a board member 
to share the information we saw shared with a junior member of staff which 
definitely undermines the authority of the CEO.

On that count alone ignoring the many other issues one ceases to be fit for 
office.   Apart from in our region where we are now being convinced that we 
need to spend money to prove a simple fact like that.

Even if I ignore all other issues being pointed to the person in question.

We are now in a situation where the likes of you are trying to tell us that we 
need to re-write our basic understanding of right and wrong.

I’m sorry that sickens me.

Yes investigate the other claims but someone admitted to wrong doing and we are 
saying thanks for admitting and for your service but it’s time we move forward 
with new people while you handle your other issues and we wish you well.


Your attempt to read my email in other ways and calling our reaction as “mob 
mentality” is insulting to say the least.

I have said it before and I will say it again here you seem to want us in 
Afrinic to accept things that no other RIR would ever accept.  And that 
continues to puzzle me to this day.

Regards

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On 23 Mar 2018, at 23:52, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com<mailto:o...@delong.com>> 
wrote:


On Mar 22, 2018, at 21:41 , Badru Ntege 
<badru.nt...@nftconsult.com<mailto:badru.nt...@nftconsult.com>> wrote:


One becomes a board member as result of the will of the community through an 
election.  The ultimate owner of AFRINIC is the community.

Technically, this is not quite accurate. One becomes a board member by the 
result of an election by the resource members, not the community. The community 
is a much larger body.

The community is saying it has lost faith in the office bearer investigation or 
not since what the office bearer has admitted to is enough for community to 
feel he is no longer suitable.

Again, this is also not quite true. Some members of the community are saying 
this, but no objective deterministic research has been presented showing that 
this position is held by a majority of the community.

The office bearer also has an allegation which is personal and that needs to be 
investigated since it has far reaching implications to the individuals involved.

At least there is one true statement in your email.

The community is saying we need to move and he steps aside deals with his 
issues without affecting AFRINIC business. I think this is only fare.

Some members of the community are saying this. Other members are calling for a 
rational approach to a valid and fair investigation and due process.

However at the moment we are all being held hostage due to decisions made 
earlier.

This is simply sensationalism which has no legitimate place in the discussion. 
Nobody is being held hostage. I realize that it is popular to use this term as 
rhetoric in AfriNIC discussions, but really, there are no prisoners here. There 
are no hostages. The due process is being followed with reasonable deliberate 
haste.

We need to move

What kind of movement are you seeking? Do you propose that we gather a lynch 
mob and take out all of those who are accused without bothering to investigate 
or establish the true facts of the situation?

I’m sure this would satisfy the more vocal members of the community, but I do 
not think it would shine a positive light on AfriNIC going forward.

I am very happy to see the current leadership attempting to continue with due 
process under the circumstances despite the mob mentality being expressed on 
this and other lists.

Owen






Sent from my iPhone

On 23 Mar 2018, at 07:33, Sunday Olutayo 
<olut...@olutayo.ng<mailto:olut...@olutayo.ng>> wrote:


Why is judgment being pass without investigation and hearing? Why are some 
people eager to be the hangmen without due process? I believe in justice, and 
it can only be obtained or dispersed through due process.

We can not be passing judgment of yet to be proofed allegations. So let follow 
due process, the independent committee should it work.

Regards,
Sunday Olutayo

On Mar 22, 2018 11:39 AM, Noah <n...@neo.co.tz<mailto:n...@neo.co.tz>> wrote:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, 5:57 p.m. Wayne Diamond, 
<wa...@domains.co.za<mailto:wa...@domains.co.za>> wrote:


Some body from the AfriNic board that is NOT implicated in either the 
harassment or breach of NDA needs to take control now and make a decisive 
statement to the community in the very near future (as in 72 hours) in order to 
inform the community of what is being done about each of the issues.

Thanks Wayne....

And to be pricise we have below board members who seem to lack cohesion but i 
could be wrong.

Mr.Masilela Lucky
Mr.Abibu Ntagihiye
Mr.Bope Christian
Mr.Ilunga Serge
Mr.Ojedeji Seun
Mr.Subramanian Moonesamy
Mr.Alan Barrett (ex-officio)


The reputation of AfriNic and the community cannot wait until the end of April 
for an investigation to start.

+++1



To the board that are not involved in either, get your act together quickly or 
step down for a new interim board to be appointed in order to resolve this but 
this cannot continue any longer in this manner.

+++1

Noah
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