I've been involved with NomCom for a goodly number of years. The "Black
Box" approach worked for me when I was involved. I think in all that
time, only two nominations were dismissed. One because the person had no
desire to stand - they were nominated kinda out of the blue.
The other was similar - and I believe was part of either a prank or good
intentions in a wrong way.
It might also be a mis-understanding of what Guidelines are. A Guideline
is simply that - a line that guides. You can choose to ignore it and
sometimes that can be the wiser choice. Others may deem a guideline as
something that must be followed. I'd call that a Rule, not a Guideline.
I'm standing for the position of Policy development Co-Chair and was
asked a number of things that I would deem appropriate for a Board Seat
but not particularly necessary at all for PDWG Co-Chair - hence my
observation.
One member of the NomCom is also a Board Member and should be reporting
back to the Board any key decisions that NomCom make (well - I used to
do that).
On 2019/06/05 16:29, Frank Habicht wrote:
Hi Walu and all,
The NomCom report shared with the invitation includes _some_ info.
- It received 11 nominations.
- one was withdrawn
- 8 are remaining
that means to me that 2 were "filtered".
I requested them to disclose how many nominations *for each seat* were
received.
When this gets answered we will see for which seats there was filtering.
I agree we shouldn't have this black box.
I agree NomCom should explain why nominees were "kicked out".
I believe the members voting should be provided with the information
that is now used to reject nominees and then be allowed to make their
own choice.
Regards,
Frank
On 05/06/2019 09:34, John Walu wrote:
I believe the deeper question is WHY is there an increasingly smaller
candidate slate of those volunteering to serve on Afrinic board, year in
year out.
Two possible answers:
A) Good candidates are avoiding the perceived 'challenging' board
/management /community relationships that continue to persist. So nomcom
hands are tied and cannot manufacture candidates.
OR
B) There are actually many good candidates applying BUT the Nomcom
'Black-box' processes is kicking them out and reducing them to 1 or 2
nominees.
To drill down to the correct answer, I think the Nomcom process needs to
be reformed.
I still do not understand the benefit of having a black box process in
the nomination committee where the community has no clue about how many
candidates applied, how many got knocked out and why. IF national
Presidential election systems are so open about this, why is that it has
to remain hidden for Afrinic?
And I say this as someone who has once served on Nomcomm as well as
someone who has once been rejected by some previous Nomcomm (I want to
believe it is within my right to share personal information/experience
as this is not covered under NDA, but I stand to be corrected ;-)
At a minimum, we should request that as Nomcom publishes the candidate
slate, they should also show a tally (without the names) of how many
candidates applied, how many got kicked out, why they were kicked out
and how many successfully went thro.
I believe this information can shed some light on the deeper question
above of whether indeed we have fewer applicants or our black-box
nommcom process is simply kicking them out in order to eventually
present a single candidate.
walu.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 3:47 PM Noah <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Jun 2019, 15:15 Sander Steffann, <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Noah,
> Read the bylaws especially section 13.8
When there is no candidate then the current director will be
re-appointed.
You missed the word "eligible" candidate!
Nomcom has since slated eligible candidate and candidates with
different slates having one or more candidate and candidates nominated.
Appointed != Elected.
There are upcoming elections scheduled where we members will be
casting votes for various candidates.
>> No election -> no Directors
>
> Board can appoint.
True. My statement was exaggerated. My apologies.
An appointed board does not have a mandate from the members
though, and for a bottom-up community ending up with more
appointed than elected board members would not be good.
We have elections coming up soon and we intend to elect otherwise
the board would have to appoint or reappoint as its within its powers.
Cheers,
Sander
Noah
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