Don't remember issues with NomCom when I was involved, not these types of problems at least. Perhaps its time to not worry about which regions volunteers come from any more.

On 2019/06/16 12:54, John Walu wrote:
On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 1:31 PM Owen DeLong <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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In general, I agree with you. I will, however, note that it is possible that there are situations where “why” should be redacted to protect the confidentiality and dignity of the applicant who was rejected. For example, if the nominating committee had rejected a  candidate because he is under indictment and under disciplinary review in his day job for misconduct, I don’t think that nomcom should be the ones to publicly disclose those details.
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@Owen

Its true, we must protect the applicant's privacy. However, we must also enhance the Nomcom's transparency. Imagine a situation where Nomcomm disqualifies candidates because they allegedly did not respond to some email. It is quite difficult really to really prove beyond reasonable it at all such an email was ever sent.  It is even harder to prove that it was successfully delivered to the intended recipient.

In such a case, Nomcom should publicly say Candidate X was disqualified because they did not respond to an email. (that in itself will discourage and expose a Nomcom that  is heavily biased towards knocking out, rather than recruiting board members;-)

Perhaps a middle ground that would protect the candidate's privacy while enhancing Nomcom Transparency and accountability would be to seek consent or objection from Candidates - at the point of application - if they would object to the reasons behind their rejection being publicly reported.

That way we avoid giving a blank cheque to Nomcom who may make decisions knowing very well that they need NOT explain themselves to anyone (lack of accountability).

So lets design and give Nomcomm a  Standard Reporting Template to enhance their transparency.  They will remain independent and autonomous in the functionality, but they should owe the community an understanding on how they worked hard to raise good candidates for AfriNIC.

The report from Nomcomm with respect to the PDWG election is a good start and can be refined and adapted for future Nomcomms.

walu.





On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 1:31 PM Owen DeLong <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:34 PM, John Walu <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    >
    > I believe the deeper question is WHY is there an increasingly
    smaller candidate slate of those volunteering to serve on Afrinic
    board, year in year out.
    >
    > Two possible answers:
    > A) Good candidates are avoiding the perceived 'challenging'
    board /management /community relationships that continue to
    persist. So nomcom hands are tied and cannot manufacture candidates.
    >
    > OR
    > B) There are actually many good candidates applying BUT the
    Nomcom 'Black-box' processes is kicking them out and reducing them
    to 1 or 2 nominees.
    >
    > To drill down to the correct answer, I think the Nomcom process
    needs to be reformed.
    >
    > I still do not understand the benefit of having a black box
    process in the nomination committee where the community has no
    clue about how many candidates applied, how many got knocked out
    and why. IF national Presidential election systems are so open
    about this, why is that it has to remain hidden for Afrinic?
    >
    > And I say this as someone who has once served on Nomcomm as well
    as someone who has once been rejected by some previous Nomcomm (I
    want to believe it is within my right to share personal
    information/experience as this is not covered under NDA, but I
    stand to be corrected ;-)
    >
    > At a minimum, we should request that as Nomcom publishes the
    candidate slate, they should also show a tally (without the names)
    of how many candidates applied, how many got kicked out, why they
    were kicked out and how many successfully went thro.

    In general, I agree with you. I will, however, note that it is
    possible that there are situations where “why” should be redacted
    to protect the confidentiality and dignity of the applicant who
    was rejected. For example, if the nominating committee had
    rejected a  candidate because he is under indictment and under
    disciplinary review in his day job for misconduct, I don’t think
    that nomcom should be the ones to publicly disclose those details.

    > I believe this information can shed some light on the deeper
    question above of whether indeed we have fewer applicants or our
    black-box nommcom process is simply kicking them out in order to
    eventually present a single candidate.

    My suspicion is that to some degree, both are occurring.

    Owen



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