J'espere que comme ca, on aura pu rendre une justice parfaite. Et il faudrais que cela soit la derniere chance pour eviter une exclusion definitive de a liste.
Le jeu. 25 févr. 2021 à 09:37, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss < [email protected]> a écrit : > Hi Ronald, > > The point is not that you agree with the removal of the message. The point > is that it is censorship, and this community should not allow it, because > then it means in the future anything else could be removed. > > This list is not to "satisfy" crazy laws in any country, whatever is the > country. > > None of the RIRs communities are subjected to the laws of any country > which imply restricting freedom of expression, and if we have the risk of > being in that situation in any RIR, then that RIR should be away from that > country. > > If I need to criticize the rules of Mauritius because they are outdated > and illogic and restrict freedom of expression, then AFRINIC will need to > censor me, then I will litigate with AFRINIC, no doubt on that and I will > keep continue criticizing whatever I believe is wrong from blogs, articles, > newspapers, or whatever is in my hand. > > As a consequence, it is totally ridiculous that AFRINIC tries to censor > anyone, and we must not accept it. > > Regards, > Jordi > @jordipalet > > > > El 25/2/21 8:56, "Ronald F. Guilmette" <[email protected]> escribió: > > In message <[email protected]>, > JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <[email protected]> wrote: > > >Moreover, removing any posting from the mailing list archives is a > clear > >attack to this community. This is called censorship. If AFRINIC, as an > >organization, is providing the service, it must be an open and > transparent > >service, and that includes not making any kind of censorship. > > I thank both Jordi and Mike Silber for their kind and constructive > comments. > > I wish to say also that I personally am OK with having my prior > posting here scrubbed from the mailing list archives. I understand > that there is some concern, well placed or not, within AFRINIC that > some of my comments may reflect badly on the organization itself and > might possibly have some effect on either the already ongoing > litigation > or on potential future litigation... and I most certainly would not > desire anything that I have said, as a private citizen, to have any > negative effect upon AFRINIC's legal position. > > After being duly informed that further contributions from me would be > moderated for a period of 30 days, I did some reading on this topic > of this legal offense known as "Scandalizing the Court". I had to > educate myself about that, because we quite certainly have nothing > even remotely like that here in the U.S. > > What I learned, among other things, is that such an offense continued > to exist, in England, Whales, and Scotland, until really quite > recently, > i.e. the 2012-2013 time frame, but that since that time it has been > abolished in those judicial systems. I also learned that this offense > continues to exist within many Commonwealth countries, apparently > including Mauritius. > > It is not for me to opine on the question of whether my prior comments > do or do not satisfy all of the various legal elements of the crime of > "Scandalizing the Court", specifically as that crime is defined within > the legal system of Mauritius. That question is most certainly not > within my area of expertise. I would only offer the suggestion that > my prior comments may possibly not rise to the level of satisfying the > legal definition of that crime, and that even if they did, I would most > certainly plead for some mitigation and leniency at my sentencing, > based upon my ignorance of local law in this instance. (And in any > event, as should be obvious, I cannot say that I am particularly > worried > that Mauritian authorities would seek to have me extradited from the > U.S. to Mauritius, to face Mauritian justice for this particular crime, > and even if that remote possibility suddenly became probable, I might > simply choose to relocate myself to some national jurisdiction that > appears to be immune, at present, to such inter-national extradition > proceedings, e.g. someplace that appears on maps just to the left of > Kenya.) > > With regards to my prior comments about individuals, I do apologize to > the community if any of these might have any effect on AFRINIC's legal > position. It is my hope and belief that they should not and will not. > I speak only for myself. Furthermore, I am quite certainly subject to > potential legal proceedings (e.g. for defamation) here in the United > States of America... by far the most litigious country on earth... and > I am thus cautious in what I say and how I say it. I have said no more > about individuals than I believe could be justified in open court, > based > upon persuasive and abundant available hard evidence, much of which I > have > already shared here. > > Nontheless, I ask forgiveness from the community for my often > intemperate > manner of speech, forgiveness which I hope will be forthcoming, given > the > totality of the context. > > I have sought, for well more than a year and a half now, simply to know > the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, at least with > respect to the corruption of the WHOIS data base. Given this clear and > abiding quest, who among you can still be entirely unsympathetic to the > frustration that I feel, to still not know, even at this late date, > either how the data base came to be corrupted, or any of the > particulars > about the one bit of actual litigation that has arisen from those > still- > mysterious events. My cup runneth over with a lack of information, and > after such an extended period of time in this state, I ask to be > excused > for my more than ordinary lack of both temperance and patience. > > That having been said, I accept without reservation the actions taken > in response to my recent comments, including both the removal of > inflamatory (and perhaps prejuduicial) postings of mine from the > archives > as well as a 30-day moderation period. I take no personal offense at > these actions, and they seem to me to be commensurate and proportional > responses. I say this knowing, as I do, that as a citizen of the > United States, I am generally free to be more vocal in my defense of > AFRINIC and its interests, against both foreign interlopers and any > possible lethargy on the part of the local judiciary than AFRINIC > itself could prudently be. I only hope that my unconstrained opinions > will be properly attributed to me alone. If AFRINIC finds it either > necessary or convenient to take actions to further clarify the crisp > dividing line between itself and me, then I am perfectly OK with that. > > Regards, > rfg > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > > > > ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are you ready for the new Internet ? > http://www.theipv6company.com > The IPv6 Company > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or > confidential. 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