But the ones that produced and propagated the content didn’t violate your CoC 
either as they didn’t post it to your list.

Owen


> On Sep 27, 2021, at 23:31 , AFRINIC Communication <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Dear Nigel,
> 
> We thank you for bringing this to our attention.
> 
> The message was not targeted towards you per se but rather those that produce 
> and propagate such content within the AFRINIC membership and community.
> 
> We appreciate our community's kind understanding and support.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> AFRINIC Communication
> 
>> On 28 Sep 2021, at 08:48, Nigel Kukard <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/27/21 12:28, AFRINIC Communication wrote:
>>> Dear community members,
>>> 
>>> AFRINIC has  taken note of a post together with a corresponding attachment 
>>> that contains inaccuracies and presented out of context on this thread 
>>> (https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2021-September/004862.html
>>>  
>>> <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2021-September/004862.html>)
>>>  and was aimed at causing damage and prejudice to AFRINIC as Regional 
>>> Internet Registry for the African region.
>> I was complaining that I too were getting unsolicited mails in a thread that 
>> others were also complaining and providing samples. How is my post out of 
>> context?
>> 
>> How is me complaining about getting unsolicited mails aimed at causing 
>> damage and prejudice to AFRINIC?
>> 
>> Why am I being publicly targeted and singled out?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> AFRINIC wishes to inform its community that the information contained in 
>>> the said attachment are presently the subject of several ongoing cases 
>>> involving AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation Ltd as well as an ongoing police 
>>> investigation in respect of a matter reported for misappropriation of IP 
>>> number resources.
>> Yes, we know that. Your members are complaining about getting unsolicited 
>> communications involving email and phone calls and sharing this with each 
>> other on a COMMUNITY mailing list and discussing it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>  AFRINIC will not comment thereon but reserves its rights to apply its Code 
>>> of Conduct against all persons making use of its mailing lists for the 
>>> purposes of causing damage and harm to AFRINIC and to take such action as 
>>> it may be advised.
>> Literally my second post, second complaint about getting unsolicited 
>> communications and I'm being threatened by AFRINIC with action because I'm 
>> causing damage and prejudice to AFRINIC?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -N
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> We have also noticed that some community members are not upholding the code 
>>> of conduct in their exchanges.
>>> 
>>> We urge you all to read the AFRINIC Code of Conduct to make sure you are up 
>>> to date on the processes that safeguard the discussion and community-driven 
>>> policies at the heart of AFRINIC.
>>> 
>>> The code of conduct ensures that discussions are kept professional and that 
>>> individuals are protected against defamatory, derogatory and personal 
>>> attacks.
>>> 
>>> Please read the following blog post for more information on the AFRINIC 
>>> Code of Conduct: https://afrinic.net/20200903-code-of-conduct 
>>> <https://afrinic.net/20200903-code-of-conduct>
>>> 
>>>  
>>> AFRINIC Communication
>>> 
>>>> On 26 Sep 2021, at 19:03, Sander Steffann <[email protected]> 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Omo,
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.  I was trying to understand the dialogue between you and Lu and 
>>>>> the "clarification".  How do you mean "may be of influence"?   
>>>> At AFRINIC meetings I have seen many cases where there was a lot of 
>>>> "steering" (people being sent to the microphones with pre-defined 
>>>> statements they didn't write themselves, but where it was pretended that 
>>>> it was their own opinion) which I have never seen at other RIRs. AFRINIC 
>>>> seems to be unique in the way there are plays for power and influence that 
>>>> are undermining the true bottom-up way, and people seem to accept this as 
>>>> normal. In other regions there is much less hierarchy (we have no CoE for 
>>>> example) and everybody is treated more equally.
>>>> 
>>>> The "power games" I have seen in AFRINIC at all levels (board, management, 
>>>> RPD, community) and the distrust between for example Anglophone and 
>>>> Francophone parts of the community make it very hard to run a true 
>>>> bottom-up system. Such behaviour in AFRINIC and its community make it very 
>>>> vulnerable to top-down influences, because the framework for such 
>>>> influences is already there.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Sander
>>>> 
>>>> PS: I am only part of the global internet community, not directly of the 
>>>> AFRINIC community. I can therefore only state how I see things from the 
>>>> outside. I am sure there are many things I interpret differently because 
>>>> of my different background. Please do not take offence, I only try to hold 
>>>> up a mirror. I have no personal, commercial or financial stake in AFRINIC, 
>>>> but I do care about the bottom-up principle and fairness. Those are the 
>>>> only reasons I speak up on AFRINIC mailing lists.
>>>> 
>>> 
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