Abdulkarim, I have taken note of your rant. After all "A LIE DOES NOT LIKE BEING CHALLENGED".
Therefore, I am copying your former colleague and co-chair Moses Serugo so that we can also here from him. Dear, Moses please confirm if Abdulkarim is a honest individual? AFTER ALL THE TRUTH DOES NOT MIND BEING QUESTIONED. I will add more actors as we go alone so that we can get to the TRUTH based on some facts :-). Cheers, Noah On Sun, 3 Oct 2021, 17:39 ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE, <[email protected]> wrote: > Noah, > > My attention has just been drawn to your email. > > I had wanted to reply to your numerous ignorant, unguarded and > attention-seeking emails in the past, but I felt I would only be dignifying > you by responding. However, you have crossed the line here, and I need to > write against my resolve to not comment on some of these issues publicly > anymore. Therefore, my response here is not to dignify your stupidity but > to clarify things to those who might mistake your nonsense for the truth. > > > > Let me be clear, *I have never lied to the community* (provide any > evidence if you have one), *nor did I ever abuse the PDP in any way.* All > the decisions we took are in line with the PDP, and we (cos I never took > any decision alone) took those decisions based on publicly available > information and in line with the PDP. > > > > You and your group were not comfortable with those decisions not because > they were wrong or because the process was erroneous but instead because > they do not serve your selfish interest. You decided to set a bad > precedence to appeal almost all our decisions and till date to God be the > glory NONE of those appeals were ever successful instead, you and your > group have now made AFRINIC more dysfunctional than ever before. Prosperity > has been fair to us. At the very least, I can come out to BOLDLY say that > the appeal committee that was in place even before we became the Co-chair > NEVER overturned ANY of our decisions. We had no influence on the appeal > committee, unlike what you and your friends are now doing. This to me is a > clear testimony that we did the right thing. We now have a situation where > Noah is now assuming the role of complainant and judge at the same time. > This you still have to do long after your kangaroo process. What a > shame!!!. Even the kangaroo process never said we did follow the the PDP > rather they had to invent a new word just to satisfy the target you gave > them. You and your friends have now manipulated the process (against the > PDP) to bring in the so-called "co-chairs" we have no problem with that as > it was a relief for us but is that what you call a consensus or did that > process followed the "Norm" ?. If Yes, was it in any way different from > what we did? When it suits you, you come out to say the consensus is not a > game of numbers, but when it is against you, you come out to say the > process was manipulated. If everyone had decided to follow your exact > methods, hell would have let loose cos it only takes about 5-6 individuals > to manipulate the system as you did (a story for another day). Things have > now gone from bad to worse even for the PDP process. All decisions are now > being appealed thanks to your precedence, and the appeal committee is now > being turned into a tool just to make sure that you and your small group of > friends can fully manipulate the entire system. > > > > Let me be clear once again. A long time ago, I decided not to respond to > you publicly anymore but I would take all necessary, including legal > actions against you, if you ever attempt to defame my character again. > > To all others, I apologies Noah crossed the line and I was left with no > other choice since those in-charge of the CoC refused to call him to order > until i ran into his nonsense 5 days after . > Cheers > > AK > > > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 10:43 AM Noah <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Lu, >> >> On Sun, 26 Sep 2021, 16:30 Lu Heng, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> As exactly that, Owen does not make a representation of me, or any of >>> the company some might think he represents, his understanding is >>> entirely his own and does not speak for me, or NRS. >>> >> >> Very well, this is clear now since Owen often purports to speak on behalf >> of your various entities using the "*We*" blah blah blah. >> >> >>> To my understanding, NRS is not trying to make representation of >>> anyone here in the community, and it never did, it's passing on a >>> teaching/a view of the world some might find acceptable, some may find >>> not. >>> >> >> The documents being sent to various resource members contain deceit and >> misrepresentation so much so for false teaching expeditions by your >> self-serving NRS. Based on my years of participation in this community, I >> note that, no single resource member and I repeat, no single resource >> member has ever gone this far or acted in this manner with your motives >> becoming clearer, each day that passes from Cloud Innovation Ltd and all >> its affiliates. >> >> - I do not know of a resource member, who has attempted to recruit other >> resource members through deceit (NRS) until you Lu. >> >> - I do not know of a resource member whose associates (I mean your Larus >> Foundation Fellows) have repeatedly acted as an echo-chamber to ensure the >> AFRINIC PDP is rendered dysfunctional. >> >> - I do not know of a resource member who has attempted to work behind the >> scenes and push for a draft proposal through proxy authors until you Lu. >> You were always behind this Antony Ubah and Taiwo draft policy which the >> community rejected that today has pending PDWG appeals. If you deny what I >> just stated, I will ask a renowned community member to speak out about what >> I just stated. >> >> >> >> *Case #5: Cloud Innovation Ltd vs AFRINIC (SC/COM/MOT/000382/2021)On 07 >> July 2021, Cloud Innovation Ltd initiated an application for Injunction >> against AFRINIC requiring its board of directors to ratify a certain >> resource transfer policy. The matter is resisted by AFRINIC and is ongoing.* >> We the community rejected the proposal above because the co-chair errored >> and we appealed as we are empowered through the bottom up process. One of >> the former co-chairs, Abdulkarim, repeatedly lied to the community and >> abused the PDP process to forcefully advance this proposal which you have >> always pushed for behind the scenes. The proposal in fact was never even >> compatible with any RIR in all its multiple versions 2, version, 3 or >> version 4 all of which were rushed through by your associates Antony and >> Taiwo. >> >> Today, you want to hijack the empowered internet community and its >> bottom-up process by going to the Mauritian supreme courts in an attempt to >> force the court to ratify the flawed self-serving draft policy of yours. >> More than ever, the motive is clear, you want to use the policy as a means >> to again, as usual, abuse existing community developed processes so that >> you can get the opportunity to transfer the space that was allocated to you >> for use in AFRICA out of the region. >> >> I repeat, I do not know of a resource member who has invested so much >> energy in pushing a draft policy proposal that never reached community >> consensus until you Lu. AbdulKarim screaming Rough Consensus, Consensus, No >> Consensus and Consensus within 4 weeks in the last call does not make for >> Consensus. >> >> In the history of the AFRINIC PDP, no proposal has ever been protested >> like your resource transfer policy and that should tell you something about >> the bottom up process which you clearly do not respect or have a clue >> about. >> >> Your behaviour is so wanting Lu. >> >> Cheers, >> Noah >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Community-Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >> > > Website <http://www.unilorin.edu.ng>, Weekly Bulletin > <http://www.unilorin.edu.ng/index.php/bulletin> UGPortal > <http://uilugportal.unilorin.edu.ng/> PGPortal > <https://uilpgportal.unilorin.edu.ng/> HelpDesk > <http://www.unilorin.edu.ng/index.php/more-resources/e-notices/6845-how-to-resolve-email-portal-login-problems-for-staff-and-students> > >
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