> On Jun 3, 2022, at 06:33 , John Curran <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On 20 May 2022, at 4:08 AM, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> On May 20, 2022, at 00:51 , Ish Sookun <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Owen, >>> >>>> On 20 May 2022, at 11:11, Owen DeLong <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have no affiliation or business with NRS whatsoever, but I will say that >>>> we do need to hold RIRs accountable when they are not properly serving the >>>> community. >>> >>> My question is not how do we hold the RIRs accountable. My question is how >>> does the Number Resource Society hold the RIRs accountable? >> >> I will leave answering that question to them. Since I have no affiliation, I >> cannot usefully comment on what they will or will not do. > > Owen - > > Actually, you may have that backwards – it appears that a membership > “affiliation” with the opaque NRS likely means that one cannot comment on > these questions: > > From the NRS terms and conditions of membership > <https://www.nrs.help/terms-conditions > <https://www.nrs.help/terms-conditions>> – > > vi. shall not undertake any action that could damage > the reputation of NRS; > vii. shall not make representations on behalf of NRS > without prior approval in writing from NRS; and > > I.e., “Members of the NRS" are actually prohibited from speaking about what > the NRS is or how it functions – this is a very challenging prohibition for a > community-based body (i.e., compare/contrast to the RIRs where volunteers > routinely present on behalf of the body, speak at other functions about RIR > activities and developments, etc.) > > Since you’re not affiliated, you actually have freedom to opine here – how do > you see the governance provisions of the NRS being an improvement over > AFRINIC’s existing provisions? As there is a distinct possibility raised by > the NRS membership terms and conditions that it will provide instructions to > NRS members regarding voting, how does that comport with the NRS claim of > trying to improve ecosystem accountability and transparency in light of its > own opacity?
I’m free to opine, sure, but since I honestly don’t know, I’m not sure how useful any opinion I might offer would be. I’m not a fan of the NRS and I deplore the video on the main site. > You’ve got experience in the RIR system and likely have more familiarity with > the various players behind the NRS than many on this list, so it would seem > quite reasonable to elaborate on such matters (so as to aid others in their > understanding of the relatively strengths of the NRS governance structures > being proposed as substitutes.) I’ve made the decision to avoid any involvement with the NRS. Others re free to decide as they wish. Owen
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