Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
Hi Stefano,
It looks like there were only 69 votes cast.
Only? This is, in fact, the biggest vote round that ever took place in the ASF or in any group/project/sub-project/commitee.
How many committers do we have in all? My intuition had been that it was >> 69, but I could be wrong.
No, we list 572 committers, 134 of which are subscribed on this mail list and 69 of them (more than 50%!!) cared enough to vote.
I wonder whether this list has brought over a sufficient mass
of the community to be representative of the community.
This list *is* the community about those who care about the ASF as a whole. One could argue that there could be some committers that don't know about the existance of this list. In that case, if you know some committer that should be here and you haven't heard from him, ask him/her privately and tell him/her about this list.
This is what I have been doing. If all of you do, I'm sure we'll cover up pretty much everybody that should be here and, if they don't want to subscribe, it's their choice, but then they cannot say that they were not given the ability to influence decisions *directly* (like is has been mentioned on reorg@)
I'm wide open to alternative proposals in order to value opinions from all the ASF "citizens". But from where I stand, and from my own experience, a vote ratio of more than 50% between subscribers and voters is *amazing*. We don't even get that high vote ratio over at members@One could of course argue that for this particular list we only care about the opinion of the members of this list ..
David said:
> Or that they thought the whole thing was so ridiculous that they > souldn't be bothered replying...
I didn't vote, for example, but not because I thought the results were ridiculous, but because I didn't want to influence anybody with my vote. Maybe others thought the same.
Also, yes, some people don't care so instead of voting (0,0) as for "I don't care at all about this", they stay quiet [which is a good thing and should be highly respected]
At the end, maybe there are individuals who don't trust this list because they haven't had the ability to interact much with the rest of the vocal people and their mutual respect is somewhat inferred from their ASF committership, but it has not being *proven* by a direct discussion.
This is the reason why I think that more then 50% vote ratio is amazing: mutual respect and recognition is building up faster than I was expecting.
And I personally think that these are all signs of health from a darwinistic perspective.
But I'd like to cite Dirk here: nobody ever said that darwinism in action is a pleasent show to watch.
-- Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --------------------------------------------------------------------
