On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:

> Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> > I fundamentally believe that the HTTP PMC model is flawed in
> > its current form; and simply generates another 'layer' and a
> > weird birthday cake.
>
> oh, ah?  reminds me of 'democracy is the worst system of government
> -- excepting all the others'.  :-)

My compliments; that is a very appropriate quote; and almost exactly
captures what I tried to say.

.. with one caveat; I believe we are getting some technology which allows
us to do some slight debugging on this age old system; and get closer to
the original/greek meaning of democracy.

> in short: if it ain't broke, why do you want to fix it?

I do not want to 'fix' httpd, not in a hurry anyway :-) it is very small
compared to the other PMCs and deals with very simple/small code bases.
And for the HTTP crowd that sort of change may simply never be warranted.

So - sorry for giving the wrong impression there.

It is the jakarta/xml ones which worry me; as they are so much bigger and
deal with some much more code; a lot of which does not have a nice RFC or
clear set of requirements to easily compare options or provide guidance.

Dw

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