Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
>Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > >>I fundamentally believe that the HTTP PMC model is flawed in >>its current form; and simply generates another 'layer' and a >>weird birthday cake. > >oh, ah? reminds me of 'democracy is the worst system of government >-- excepting all the others'. :-)
My compliments; that is a very appropriate quote; and almost exactly captures what I tried to say.
.. with one caveat; I believe we are getting some technology which allows us to do some slight debugging on this age old system; and get closer to the original/greek meaning of democracy.
uhhh, scary. Beware of those who think that technology can fix human problems.
>in short: if it ain't broke, why do you want to fix it?
Yeah, I thought the same.
I do not want to 'fix' httpd, not in a hurry anyway :-) it is very small compared to the other PMCs and deals with very simple/small code bases. And for the HTTP crowd that sort of change may simply never be warranted.
So - sorry for giving the wrong impression there.
well, stating 'the HTTPD PMC is flawed too' sounded pretty explicit to me.
Can you tell me what's wrong with a PMC which is almost silent, is composed by committers and manages just one codebase? sounds like an ideal situation for a PMC. I really can't see your point but please explain it since I think it's *very* important since many of us want to move their projects onto the HTTPD direction.
It is the jakarta/xml ones which worry me; as they are so much bigger and deal with some much more code; a lot of which does not have a nice RFC or clear set of requirements to easily compare options or provide guidance.
Yes, many agree with you in this vision and I think Sam's proposal goes in the direction of creating an evolutionary escape path or, at least, a way to have spread the word about things for those who won't make it here on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Moreover, I don't think a PMC with a hundred of members will behave any worse than a PMC with just a few of them.
I really don't think that it can be worse than we have today, so +1 from me.
-- Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --------------------------------------------------------------------
