Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> 
> On 4 Nov 2002, Costin Manolache wrote:
> 
> >  The protection of the PMC matters the most for those
> > who actually write code and actively participate in jakarta.
> 
> Bear in mind that is -this- is the number one aim - we can do
> that without a PMC

no, we can't.  please see roy's several messages on this subject.

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