BAD MSG: clear hat you were representing a personal stance on root certificates, = existing apache know how, and security.
I'll remember this in the future, and thank you for being honest about = this. (that wasn't sarcasm) -------- Tim O'Brien=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:13 PM > To: community@apache.org > Cc: Tim O'brien > Subject: RE: You can at least forward my comments to these=20 > secret discussions about wiki >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >=20 > > > a friend of the court brief for the "Board vs. Wiki". > > > > Board vs. Wiki? That's somewhat amusing in its timing, considering=20 > > that the Chairman of the Board, as a private individual not in an=20 > > official capacity, >=20 > Tim: Bear in mind that in the ASF we almost never have our=20 > board/chair or committer hats on - but virtually always talk=20 > as normal peer to peer beings. >=20 > Only seldom wil someone with his 'hat' make a statement; and=20 > in that case you will usually see that that then comes from=20 > (in my case) '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and often has an pgp=20 > signature. Things are mostly about consensus; and rarely, if=20 > ever, do we need more. >=20 > The number of messages like that are typically less than 2 a=20 > month for me. (And most go to license or copy right violators=20 > anyway). (And - yes I know that there _ARE_ people who use=20 > their ASF address for normal day to day work - and I=20 > personally frown upon that. ;-) ;-). >=20 > But, and slightly with less of a smiley, is that the fact=20 > that your message thus comes across as a bit crass - and=20 > implies actions by officials; which in most cases are=20 > confused with their personal stances. >=20 > Dw, just a person. >=20 >=20 >=20