On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Costin Manolache wrote:
> 
> > Are we now going to have similar "oversight" over the mailing lists and
> > archives ? If someone posts a pointer to warez or porn on one of the lists
> > - are we going to have to remove it from archives ?
> 
> We have, in my opinion, sufficient oversight on the mailing list already:
> 
> ->    Mailing list are clearly assigned to specific commiter groups
>       or pmcs; who is responsible is clear.
> ...


> This is quite in contrast to the -current- wiki site; where we lack clear
> mapping of sections to PMC's or commiter groups, where we have yet no
> clear indication that any and all changes are actively followed by the
> majority of the committers in that section and no clear scoping.

My point was: if someone posts a mail with pointers to warez or porn or 
spam -  it will get through and will be archived in the mailing list 
archives.  The PMC ( afaik ) can't take it back or remove it from the
archives ( maybe our archives - but I doubt we do that ). The fact
that we read the spam or just delete it ( which is what I do ) is
unrelated. 


The wiki has the benefit (?) that bad content can be removed - by _anyone_ 
who happens to read it ( no only the PMC or committers ). 


Fact is that wiki allows _more_ policing than mailing lists ( anyone who 
reads a page can modify it and remove offending content - not just
the small number of PMC members ). 


As I said, I have no problem with having more structure in Wiki - like
separate wikis for each PMC and some conventions on layout that would
allow easy navigation and tracking. 


The solution I would like: a hiearchical layout on the wiki, with the 
first levels restricted to PMC and projects. Each topic in wiki will have to 
follow a pattern like: JakartaTomcatMyTomcatTopic.
If a topic doesn't start with one of the approved prefixes - it will
be rejected. We just need a map of prefixes to mailing lists, and 
each project ( or subproject ) should get a prefix if it provies a list.
( JakartaTomcat -> tomcat-dev@, etc ).

Costin



 









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