on 6/24/03 6:59 AM Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:

>>I think that we have multiple subcultures under the ASF umbrella, due to
>>the way that the umbrella projects were formed.  Whether you like that
>>or not, I think that is the reality.  I know that I personally would
> 
> And I think that is a healty thing. It makes us more resiliant and self
> supporting in a changing world. I certainly do not thing that 'enforcing'
> the patterns of 'httpd' are a good idea.

I agree, also because I'm not so sure that the patterns of "httpd" are
necessarely the best ones. I believe that the java.apache.org-originated
culture of a lower bar for committership created the explosive growth of
jakarta and xml. Something that the HTTPd culture fails to identify as a
value, but it might well be from a purely darwinistical perspective,
because it allows more noise and mutations to enter the system, thus
improving the ability to adapt to environmental changes.

The problem was, IMO, that this growth was not identified early on and
this lead to the creation of somewhat balkanized subcultures, which we
(ASF) are now trying to reduce by allowing projects to autogovern
themselves and escape the umbrella.

But again, only if they like so, because freedom of choice is key in a
healthy and respectful organization.

-- 
Stefano.



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