On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Greg Stein wrote: > On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:42:12PM -0700, Costin Manolache wrote: > >... > > Dot net is actually doing almost the same mistake as java (AFAIK)- they > > support other languages, but only syntactically ( like java does with the > > languages that generate java bytecode ). AFAIK you can't integrate > > unmodified python or perl with .net code. > > Sure you can. I wrote a compiler for Python in 1998 or 1999 (forget which) > that compiled Python down to MSFT's CLI. Mark Hammond and I worked on that > together, altho it was mostly me getting the framework set up, and Mark > running to the goal with it. I believe the Python.Net (and Perl.Net) stuff > is available from MSFT and/or ActiveState now. > > Have no doubt tho... it compiled any Python code to the CLI. The obvious > problem was dealing with Python extension modules. Not much could be done > about that. But pure Python? Or the standard Python library modules? You > bet.
My point was .NET makes exactly the same mistake as java, by "integrating" python by compiling it to .net bytecodes ( what you describe ) and making it "fit" the .net. Just like Jython does in java. Check http://grunge.cs.tu-berlin.de/~tolk/vmlanguages.html for a list of languages that work on top of java. The only difference between .NET and java ( in this area) is that .NET advertise this pseudo-integration as real integration , while Java marketing tries to paint is as "unpure" and bad. As you point out, dealing with _existing_ Python modules and codebase is the interesting part - that's the _real_ integration. Costin > > [ for the Python stuff, we compiled direct to the CLI; I think the Perl > stuff took the approach of writing C# code, then compiling that ] > > Cheers, > -g > > -- > Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
