----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> on 7/10/03 4:21 PM Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> > So an apache-wide newsletter would be great. And posting it to apache wide
> > announce, or even xposting it to all announce mailing list - sure. I'd
> > love that. Having it on the web is nice for archival too - but I certainly
> > do not mind 5-25k of well written quality newsletter (like the recent one,
> > or like apache week) delivered to my doorstep.

+1.  I wanted to expand the newsletter to non-jakarta stuff from the beginning 
but never found the time to do it properly.  

> > 
> > Keep up the good work - and think broad - there are no real boundaries in
> > the ASF, except for those we invent ourselves.
> 
> I can hardly agree more with Dirk's view.
> 
> I think we should have an apache-wide newsletter and deliver it thru
> announce@apache.org once a month.

Previously the announcement lists have always been the target lists except when 
getting comments on drafts - I would have thought the annoncements list(s) 
would be sufficient now that the wiki "live draft" is in place - so the 
controversial community posting could probably be dropped for the future.

One point I would like to make though, and not wanting to detract from this 
fantastic issue (thanks Tetsuya!), is that keeping the up the momentum has 
proved difficult at times over the last year and that not every project has 
something useful to say every month.  Building the newsletter via the wiki 
makes it easier to contribute but I suspect that the normal size of a monthly 
apache newsletter still wouldn't be much bigger than this one.  I guess what 
I'm saying is that I think we should let the newsletter grow too big before we 
start carving it up into even/odd months or similar schemes.

I do still like the idea of the full contents via email though as it makes it 
easier to catch up offline.  I'm pretty sure that any issues >100k could be 
edited down for the email version with links to the full copy online but I'm 
still not expecting to see too many that size anyway.  

Maybe I'm underestimating and need to explore *.apache.org again.

> 
> At apachecon one of the most packed sessions is always the explaination
> about all the different projects in one confy session.
> 
> This newsletter tells people about the "status quo" without having to
> shop around for info. I think it would be a great tool to increase
> crosspollination and awareness even for people inside the ASF (me first!)

Its good to see these two points being made - switch "the ASF" to "Jakarta" and 
they were the exact reasons that I wanted to start up a newsletter! (The 
jakarta limitted scope relating purely to my apache exposure at the time)

Rob


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