* Ceki G?lc? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> At 05:10 PM 7/10/2003 -0500, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> >on 7/10/03 4:21 PM Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> >
> >> ...
> >>
> >>>one of the consequences of encouraging the breaking up of jakarta is
> >>>that there are a lot more apache projects (whether they started in
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >>>if we do manage to get some momentum for an apache-wide newsletter, would
> >>
> >>
> >> Please please !
> >>
> >> I think that none of us works in a vacuum across artificial boundaries.
> >> Virtually all systems I build at work or for play, mix and match things; 
> >a
> >> bit of XML here, some application language there, perhaps some java left,
> >> somea bit of apache to connect it safely to the internet; some PDF
> >> generation to keep PHB's happy, etc, etc.
> >>
> >> XML, web and java are rarely separated; WS and ant straddle half our 
> >world
> >> - t is hard to think of any app server environment whilst ignoring bits 
> >of
> >> php or mod_perl, etc, etc
> >>
> >> So an apache-wide newsletter would be great. And posting it to apache 
> >wide
> >> announce, or even xposting it to all announce mailing list - sure. I'd
> >> love that. Having it on the web is nice for archival too - but I 
> >certainly
> >> do not mind 5-25k of well written quality newsletter (like the recent 
> >one,
> >> or like apache week) delivered to my doorstep.
> >>
> >> Keep up the good work - and think broad - there are no real boundaries in
> >> the ASF, except for those we invent ourselves.
> >
> >I can hardly agree more with Dirk's view.
> >
> >I think we should have an apache-wide newsletter and deliver it thru
> >announce@apache.org once a month.
> >
> >At apachecon one of the most packed sessions is always the explaination
> >about all the different projects in one confy session.
> >
> >This newsletter tells people about the "status quo" without having to
> >shop around for info. I think it would be a great tool to increase
> >crosspollination and awareness even for people inside the ASF (me first!)
> 
> 
> Reducing bandwidth is an important objective. At the same time, sharing
> the bandwidth for highly informative messages is perfectly reasonable
> and should be encouraged. The Jakarta newsletter is packed with useful
> information.
> 
For jakarta people. I do very, *very* little work in the Java domain. As
such, having a link sent out to a url where i can peruse the newsletter *if
I so wish* is much better for me than having my bandwidth wasted by an email
that I don't want.
-Thom

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